Dallas-Fort Worth's 'modern survivalists' are ready for layoffs - or war

Dallas Star-Telegram ^ | 4/5/09 | MELODY McDONALD

[Windflier]

Explain?

Do you really believe that the majority of our military personnel will obey an order to fire on their own countrymen?

[diamond6]

Before I read this article... it’s going to cheer me up, right? :)

[ScreamingFist]

"The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) 809[890].ART.90 (20), makes it clear that military personnel need to obey the "lawful command of his superior officer," 891.ART.91 (2), the "lawful order of a warrant officer", 892.ART.92 (1) the "lawful general order", 892.ART.92 (2) "lawful order". In each case, military personnel have an obligation and a duty to only obey Lawful orders and indeed have an obligation to disobey Unlawful orders, including orders by the president that do not comply with the UCMJ. The moral and legal obligation is to the U.S. Constitution and not to those who would issue unlawful orders, especially if those orders are in direct violation of the Constitution and the UCMJ."

I'll leave it to you to study why it's unconstitutional for the US military to fire on civilians.

[EdReform]

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[Bookbuck]

Good article—not sarcastic in the least. Growing up on a small working farm in Ohio, my family was always in survivalist mode. We never knew when the next storm would wipe out all of our crops/income. Canning in a sweltering kitchen in late summer or high-tailing it down into a frigid root cellar in mid-winter was no big deal. We didn’t build shelves for books, we built shelves to hold more home-canned goods. Practically everybody we knew collected gray water and even the vet was willing to barter services for goods. The loaded shotgun was above the door near where our Apple IIe computer sat. Almost all our friends and family lived like this And this was in the mid to late 80s. Guess most everybody got soft in the last 25 years. Me included. I’m now paying dearly to play catch up.

[BILLNHILL MAKE ME ILL]

I hear what you're saying and my heart truly goes out to everyone that is struggling in this "Obamanation". Everyone has been affected to some degree and some more than others. And, if you haven't been, you definitely will be.

My post was really addressing that you should not be telling everyone under the sun, especially in a newspaper article, what you have. You are potentially putting your home on a "shopping list'.

[AvOrdVet]

Networks are just as important, if not more so, than buying hardware & supplies right now.

Going to a meet and greet on the 18th (Paul Revere's Ride)

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[wac3rd]

No, I don’t...but if it came to that, nothing would surprise me, frankly.

[WhirlwindAttack]

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[stevio]

Good article.

[kalee]

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[chuckles]

......."he could force them to engage citizenry, if “provoked".....

"Force" is a relative term. I'm not sure a real patriot could be forced to perform anti American acts. aka Patrick Henry.

[An Old Man]

Without forming a militia ahead of time, we really stand little chance of survival for more than a few days. The government's natural position would be to form a dictatorship( marshall law) and all liberties removed "for our own good". No courts, no police, no governmental organizations, to protect our liberties, in fact, they would be the enemy to liberty.

Why are you giving up before the struggle even starts?

[ExSoldier]

I'll leave it to you to study why it's unconstitutional for the US military to fire on civilians.

You're assuming that the majority of the military has been properly educated in the meaning and underpinnings of the US Constitution. I've been a teacher in the public schools for over 20 years. I'm one of the few that does not practice revisionism with a healthy dose of liberal bias injected. I teach in the 4th biggest school district in the nation. Now we know why the liberals slowly infested the education system over 40 years ago. If you don't know the what's and why's of your freedoms, you will be unlikely to lay down your life to preserve same.

[diamond6]

You can get really good deals at beprepared.com. Their prices are fair and their shipping is good. If you can find others to buy with you, sometimes they have discounts on 6 cans or more.

Honeville Grains is also an excellent source. Their shipping is only $5.00!!

I’m with you. I can only spend a certain amount a month (it comes from my grocery budget) on storage stuff. Every month I buy one case of different storage meats from mredepot.com and then buy “sides” from Honeyville and Beprepared.com. Would you believe they sell freeze dried veges like brocolli and spinach, I was stoked when I saw that.

[Kartographer]

I recommend AAOOB Foods:

http://www.aaoobfoods.com/

Christian company with great prices and great customer service.

[Redcitizen]

Ping for later read

[chuckles]

......"Why are you giving up before the struggle even starts?".....

Far from giving up, I'm just looking forward. If the bad guys think they will ransack me and mine, they will be piled high in the front yard, but what about a week from then? Another month from then? A year from then?

Our founders had the foresight to form militia's, but today that's a bad word or put off on the Nat Guard. What I'm saying is just having some water and ammo may not get us very far if we want the US to survive a dictatorship. Every man for himself will most likely end with just a bunch of dead men. If it weren't so, Cuba would be free, Venezuela would be free, ect, ect.

Just as an example, picture New Orleans after Katrina. What if the government WASN'T the law enforcer, but the law breaker. One of the first things they did was illegally confiscate weapons from law abiding citizens. What if it went far beyond that? Who would stand against the tyrants? There should be some sort of LOCAL militia plan so we DON"T NEED FEDERAL help. We just always talk about stocking up on ammo and guns every 4 or 8 years, but have NO plan. After IKE, our county judge closed the highways coming and going into Tyler county. We were angry at first, but I'm sure it stopped the rubberneckers, the looters, and the people looking to take our FEMA water and food. Several counties had people driving from place to place collecting free ice, water and MRE's that were needed at the time. Soon after, MRE's started to appear in the local papers for sale.