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To: NYer; aruanan
"What did a Jew look like 2000 years ago? The Shroud image shows a man who has been severely beaten and crowned with thorns."

Except aruanan insists that was not a crown of thorns, but rather a phylactery (a bloody phylactery?), which arunan says proves that even though he doesn't look so Jewish, he must have been, right?

The image on the shroud looks to me like your average six foot tall 12th century Knight Templar from northern Europe, not the average five-foot four inch first century Jewish-Semite from Judea.

115 posted on 04/06/2009 2:57:38 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK; NYer
Except aruanan insists that was not a crown of thorns, but rather a phylactery (a bloody phylactery?), which arunan says proves that even though he doesn't look so Jewish, he must have been, right?

You don't read clearly. If your general level of acuity matches that of your reading, you're in real trouble.

The image on the shroud looks to me like your average six foot tall 12th century Knight Templar from northern Europe, not the average five-foot four inch first century Jewish-Semite from Judea.

There was no average six foot tall 12th century male. Even by the late 1700's the average French adult male weighed about 110 pounds and the British about 134.
116 posted on 04/06/2009 4:57:15 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: BroJoeK
The image on the shroud looks to me like your average six foot tall 12th century Knight Templar from northern Europe, not the average five-foot four inch first century Jewish-Semite from Judea.

Actual surveys of skeletons from first Century Jewish cemeteries in Jerusalem show that the average male height was approximately 5' 8" tall... only 3/8 of an inch shorter than the average American male. The average height of the Romans of the period was closer to your 5' 4". The 5'10" height of the man on the Shroud of Turin is not even one sigma from the average.

122 posted on 04/06/2009 8:18:43 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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