Crackdown on illegals produces crime decline [Prince William, Va.] [Northern Va.]

World Net Daily ^ | 2009-04-04

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Report confirms aggravated assault down by 36.5 percent.

BY ALYSSA FARAH

Following a crackdown on illegal immigration, officials in Prince William County in northern Virginia are reporting their numbers reveal a significant decrease in violent crimes committed.

The violent crime rate in Prince William County plummeted 22 percent in 2008, according to new reports.

In recent years, the county had experienced a steady influx of illegal immigrants that led to its development of one of the most aggressive immigration policies in the nation.

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Crime Statistics, 2008, Prince William County, Va. [pwcgov.org]

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[Frantzie]

Yup. Fewer illegals less crime - less drug crime - fewer scams including mtg scams. Also less sex crimes.

[unixfox]

Who would have thunk?

[FlingWingFlyer]

We're finding the same thing here in Arizona. Thanks Joe!

And yes, Phil Gordon is an ignorant poster boy for the illegal alien invasion.

[sten]

democrats in the WH and congress... ok to bring down crime rates now

[worst-case scenario]

“Post hoc ergo propter hoc” is a common fallacy of causation, and one which I expect from the “reporting” of World Net Daily. The drop is crime is an event which occurred after a crackdown on illegal immigrants. This does not mean that it was *caused* by the crackdown,; there may be other reasons which are not examined.

I suppose one could argue that the drop in crime is due to Obama’s election - after all, that was an intervening event, as well. *THAT’s* why “post hoc” is a bad argument.

[pallis]

You import a criminal culture, you get crime. You deport a criminal culture, you get less crime. Funny how that works.

[umgud]

Geez, you mean this works better than gun control?

[Last Dakotan]

Crackdown on illegals new Democrat voters produces crime decline

[sgtyork]

..and how does the incarceration of illegal aliens at a rate higher than American citizens fit into your objection?

found that the criminal aliens were 4.5 percent of the total prison population in terms of detention days. .... The higher incidence by criminal aliens in the state and local prisons than their representation in the adult population demonstrates that illegal aliens are likely to be incarcerated for crimes nearly half-again a more than 45 percent higher rate than their presence in the population.

http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=leg_ellisisland

• In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.

• A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County. The gang has grown dramatically over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central America and Mexico.

• The leadership of the Columbia Lil’ Cycos gang, which uses murder and racketeering to control the drug market around L.A.’s MacArthur Park, was about 60 percent illegal in 2002, says former assistant U.S. attorney Luis Li. Francisco Martinez, a Mexican Mafia member and an illegal alien, controlled the gang from prison, while serving time for felonious reentry following deportation.

New York conveniently forgot the 1996 federal ban on sanctuary laws until a gang of five Mexicans—four of them illegal—abducted and brutally raped a 42-year-old mother of two near some railroad tracks in Queens. The NYPD had already arrested three of the illegal aliens numerous times for such crimes as assault, attempted robbery, criminal trespass, illegal gun possession, and drug offenses. The department had never notified the INS.

http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html

The data indicated that illegal immigrants, overall, were not a greater crime risk, according to the study, which looked at all inmates released from Los Angeles County Jail for a month in 2002.

But among those who previously had been deported, reentered the U.S. and were arrested and released from jail, nearly 75% went on to commit another crime within a year. And 28% were arrested three or more times during the one-year period.

The recidivism rate was much lower for illegal immigrants who had not been previously deported, with 32% of those inmates being rearrested within a year and 7% arrested three or more times during that year.

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/sep/08/local/me-jail8

.....conclude that they cause about 21% of it, a crime rate 6 time that of legal residents, meaning that illegal immigrants cause 3,360 murders, 19,950 rapes, 450,000 burglaries, and 1.45 million serious thefts, besides other categories of crimes.

http://www.rasmusen.org/x/2007/06/29/illegal-immigrants-%20cause-21-of-crime/

[benewton]

“Post hoc ergo propter hoc”

Don’t know, but I do observe a few things.

This is my second consult in the area, and this time around there are almost zero “welcoming” lines of what were, apparently, illegals, standing around in the malls and storefronts.

I think that a good thing.

Too, while there are many empty houses, probably foreclosed, the on street parking has gone to something approaching reasonable in terms of driving through.

Many fewer boom boxes on wheels, too, no “people” driving their cars around on the grass of the apartment complex, and so forth.

I suspect the crime figures are correct, but know that the environment is better, and I’ll take that.

All that said, northern Virginia is a pit, and I couldn’t live here. Survive, yes, and I must for the moment, jobs being what they are.

As for us, the wife can arrive anytime she wishes, if she thinks I need to be kept track of, but she’s strongly discouraged, because while I’ve some options regarding my own safety, I’ve none at all regarding her’s, and the USPc .40’d be drawn and used immediately.

It’s a legal carry, but I really want to avoid using it, and having taken care of my share of the dead, don’t wish to add to the numbers.

They’re not all gone, but, for a change, there’s hope.

[Isabel C.]

Are you really having a problem understanding how arresting, or simply encouraging a large number of lawbreakers (illegal aliens) to leave a county due to tough law enforcement, can make that county’s crime rate drop?

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My objection is not to the statistics, but to the article’s position that if illegal immigrants are the subject of a crackdown, and the crime rate drops afterwards, that the drop in crime is caused by the crackdown. That is an example of the “post hoc ergo propter hoc (”after this, because of this”) fallacy.

Regarding your statistics concerning illegal immigrants and incarceration, there may be other causes than innate criminality on the part of the arrested. A judge is more likely to release a citizen who resides in the community or the state on ROR, whereas there is a much greater flight risk with a person who is a native of another country, who is in this one illegally. Your figures about LA’s fugitive felony warrants show why: a native of another country can flee the jurisdiction more easily.

Your arguments do not vitiate mine.

[ought-six]

I’ve seen statistics that show the more illegals there are the more crime (especially violent crime). The article seems to bear that out.

[Condor51]

Following a crackdown on illegal immigration, ... crime rate in Prince William County plummeted 22 percent in 2008,

This 'amazing' news is a two-fer.

and...

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[river rat]

Duh!
Remove illegals and illegal acts decrease...

Who the Hell couldn’t have figured that out?

We have stood by while nearly EVERY elected official stood by with their thumbs in their asses while the Republic has been invaded by illegal aliens....

Here in Kalifornicate - the illegals have become a very significant presence.......a vote swinging factor, explaining the Leftist Democrat’s wet dream to grant amnesty and the vote.