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Women's Right to Vote, the Beginning of the End for America?
Chico Enterprise Record ^ | 3/29/09 | OneVike

Posted on 03/29/2009 5:51:07 PM PDT by OneVike

From the day the founding Fathers risked their liberty and life by signing the Declaration of Independence, there has been those who have wanted to sink this great ship called the United States of America. Well 143 years later the good ship America took a torpedo hit that at the time seemed like just another glancing blow. What many still consider the greatest step forward in equality for the sexes, was more then just a glancing blow however. It was in fact a deadly strike that entered the very heart of the ship and has been smoldering since. The damage caused by the 19th amendment was slow in its destruction, but after almost 100 years we can now see how complete the destruction really was.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blamethechicks; democrats; feminism; marxism; nannystate; theend; womensvote
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To: HungarianGypsy

Probably not. But since that’s what their world revolves around, it’s a catastrophe if they can’t.

Who’s emotional again??


561 posted on 04/02/2009 1:48:50 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Absolutely, the sperm donors will vote liberal — especially the ones without jobs.

But, how do you account for the advantage the Democrats always have among women?


562 posted on 04/02/2009 2:07:04 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer
"But, how do you account for the advantage the Democrats always have among women?"

See my posts above. With ever increasing out-of-wedlock births and declining marriage rates, single women, many of them mothers, have for many years, and increasingly so, turned to government for the support men won't give them and many of their families can't. If it's a choice between survival for they and their children or no survival at all, they'll choose the party who promises to help provide for them and to some extent does, quite the logical choice, btw.

Without the sexual revolution and the welfare state, the disparity among male and female voting patterns would barely exist, if at all, as evidenced by the fact that far fewer married women vote for the democrats.

563 posted on 04/02/2009 2:31:11 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Bush's recession, Obama's depression.)
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To: lady lawyer

I’ve never given it much consideration.

But as has been pointed out, if women shouldn’t have the vote because they tend to vote liberal, there are other groups which shouldn’t have it either.

The problem is, it gets to the point of trying to control the elections and politics by controlling who votes. Just because someone doesn’t vote the way you like, doesn’t mean that you can find some sort of reason that you think is valid for taking their vote away from them.

Saying that women shouldn’t have the vote because they’re women and hence can’t think clearly, isn’t any different that saying that the blacks shouldn’t have the vote because.....whatever reason you want to come up with.

Determining someone’s right to vote based on gender is no better than determining someone’s right to vote based on skin color.

All it gets interpreted as is reinforcing the white male dominance thing.


564 posted on 04/02/2009 2:31:43 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; lady lawyer
It isn't being emotional to begin with that's the problem.

It's whether your emotions lead your intellect or your intellect leads your emotions.

565 posted on 04/02/2009 2:36:31 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Bush's recession, Obama's depression.)
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To: TAdams8591

And that’s a result of men abdicating their responsibility as breadwinners and protectors of their families.

Sure, you can blame women for getting pregnant out of wedlock, but last I heard, getting pregnant is not a solo enterprise.

Abandoning the mother of your child(ren) is not the manly thing to do.

Women left to their own resources are no doubt going to vote for provision, but that isn’t necessarily an emotional response as much as a practical one. When the choice is going without vs voting for someone who will provide, guess what’s going to happen. Nobody likes to go hungry, but again, that’s not an emotional response. Just watch a man when dinner is not on time......

If the men in their lives won’t take care of them, who can blame them for looking for someone who will?


566 posted on 04/02/2009 2:37:18 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
"And that’s a result of men abdicating their responsibility as breadwinners and protectors of their families."

Exactly. As my previous posts indicate, we are in full agreement. Well said! : )

567 posted on 04/02/2009 3:07:58 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Bush's recession, Obama's depression.)
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To: lady lawyer
"I think women are more likely to respond to the “feel good” rhetoric and the phony compassion of the Left."

Because of the current social conditions, that's true. It wasn't the case when the marriage rate was high and the divorce and out-of-wedlock births were low.

As I stated previously, it wasn't giving the vote to women, that is responsible for the fact that currently a majority of women vote for Democrats, it was the sexual revolution and the welfare state. I resent the implication of those who would now deny all women the right to vote if they could, that women are primarily to blame for the threat of socialism now looming over all our heads.

568 posted on 04/02/2009 3:19:29 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Bush's recession, Obama's depression.)
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To: metmom; lady lawyer

Some excellent and thoughtful comments metmom and you as well, as usual, ladylawyer. : )


569 posted on 04/02/2009 3:23:55 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Bush's recession, Obama's depression.)
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To: metmom

Your whole post is soooo true, and one of the reasons, I don’t buy this argument that men don’t also think and act emotionally.


570 posted on 04/02/2009 3:27:02 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Bush's recession, Obama's depression.)
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To: armymarinemom
True freedom is knowing that you can be a SAHM or a CEO.

Consistency check: do you then believe that men have a right to be stay at home fathers for their baby daughters and sons as well as being able to be CEOs?

Or are you contending that women should have equal opportunity to be CEOs while incongruously simultaneously contending that men should have lesser rights to be a stay at home parent?

571 posted on 04/03/2009 11:21:26 AM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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To: TheFourthMagi

Sure they do. Where did I say that men couldn’t stay at home. The topic suggesting that women shouldn’t have the right to vote led to my comments.


572 posted on 04/03/2009 11:33:14 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Zoe Brain
Personally, as I scientist, I’d like to see an experiment. Men had from 1780 to 1920 to run the country. 140 years. Let’s have 140 years where men can’t vote, and see how that goes. Actually, I think 100 would be enough.

How about 140 years in which men are the primary caregivers of their daughters and sons, fathers get custody by default in divorce and get the house and alimony from their former wife as well, and politicians and stores cater almost exclusively to the men's vote?

Now that would be civilization changing.

And all of it would be the exact opposite of how things currently are and have been for decades.

573 posted on 04/03/2009 11:37:50 AM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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To: armymarinemom

Just seeking a consistent standard.

I have heard too many people shout ‘equal rights’ where they are seeking to get (or retain) rights for women, but suddenly abandon the equal rights slogan where it would result in actual equal rights for men.


574 posted on 04/03/2009 11:41:01 AM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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To: metmom

Once upon a time... specifically from the dawn of civilization through the American Civil War... men knew that in the event of a divorce or separation, custody of all of the children would remain with them.

Thus, while the men had responsibility and fulfilled that responsibility, they had full rights too.

You advocate for men to be responsible: great. Sure. But.

Are you now advocating, correspondingly, for the full parental rights of men to be restored?

The basis of this country was that rights and responsibilities need to be a package deal.

As in “no taxation without representation”.


575 posted on 04/03/2009 11:49:38 AM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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To: TheFourthMagi
Can't say I disagree with you. I'm very, very aware of the Glass Ceiling, a situation so dire most men frankly don't believe in it. It exists.

I'm also acutely aware of the raw deal - no, the blatant and terrible injustice, something that amounts to slavery in some cases - that men are subject to in divorce and custody cases.

Dealing with the first requires a change of culture, and won't be accomplished in the sort term. Dealing with the second could be done within a year, if the will was there. It's not, partly because... it will require a change of culture.

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

I've not butchered a hog, only a turkey. I have no intention of dying soon, and the only invasion I've helped plan was a disaster relief effort. I've only conned a ship in simulation (which I helped write).

The kind of man I'd want as a husband and father to my children should be able to do all that - and give backrubs. And I want to be the kind of gal such a guy deserves to have as his partner.

576 posted on 05/24/2009 8:04:47 PM PDT by Zoe Brain (Rocket Scientist, Naval Combat System Architect)
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To: OneVike
looking at the latest poling in Nevada that shows women support Reid by 2 points over the Republican, I tend to agree that women should never have beenj given the right to vote.

I could have lived very satisfactorily my whole life without voting if I knew that my fellow sisters who always voted liberal were also not voting.
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577 posted on 08/08/2010 10:31:03 PM PDT by Korah
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To: OneVike

A bump to remind everyone we were here one time before, because of the squishy female vote, and sadly the same fool is running things again, because Biden ain’t in control of his bowels, let along the agenda.


578 posted on 04/12/2022 9:50:28 PM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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