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MAY: The counterrevolution
The Washington Times ^ | March 29, 2009 | Clifford D. May

Posted on 03/29/2009 2:15:59 AM PDT by Scanian

The question posed by social scientist Charles Murray at the American Enterprise Institute's annual dinner this month could hardly have been simpler — Do Americans want the United States to be like Europe?

He asked as someone who admires Europe and Europeans. He asked also because it is becoming increasingly apparent that restructuring the United States along the lines of the European social-democratic model is the change many in the new administration - perhaps including President Obama himself - believe in.

Mr. Murray is convinced that Europeanizing America is a bad idea, and not only because the European model creates chronically “sclerotic economies.” More significant, he says, is the fact that embracing the European model means discarding the Founders' revolutionary re-invention of government, and of the relationship between the state and the citizen. Mr. Murray argues this would inevitably “enfeeble” the habits and institutions that have been singularly responsible for making America “robust and vital” - an “exceptional” nation.

The intent of the modern European welfare state, Mr. Murray says, is laudable: to take “some of the trouble” out of life. Dealing with troubles, he concedes, is not always easy or pleasant, but it can lead to satisfactions accessible through no other means. By contrast, those relieved of important responsibilities tend to while away their days “as pleasantly as possible.”

And so, in Europe, one sees a diminishing work ethic, catastrophically declining birthrates, a dwindling sense of nation and community, and empty churches.

I would add this: Such a society is no match for the challenge of radical Islam

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: charlesmurray; cliffmay; clifforddmay; europe; eurosocialism; exceptionalism; obamunism; welfarestate
"Will America become more like Europe?"
1 posted on 03/29/2009 2:15:59 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

” “Will America become more like Europe?” “

This is America!! We’re out to out-Europe Europe...


2 posted on 03/29/2009 2:25:32 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (At some point, government has to be the next bubble to burst. (H/T Freeper This_far))
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To: Scanian

I am no longer convinced that there are no tears in heaven.

My long departed grandfather fought in WW II, served in the US Navy for 20 years, and I know he must be crying for his country right now.

Dear God, don’t forgive them, for they do know what they are doing.

Good night....


3 posted on 03/29/2009 2:39:16 AM PDT by Gator113 (For America to Survive, Obama Must Fail..... Obama=Failure in Chief with the Audacity of Dope.....)
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To: Scanian

Our ancestors left Europe, for good reasons!


4 posted on 03/29/2009 2:43:59 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Scanian
Such a society is no match for the challenge of radical Islam


5 posted on 03/29/2009 2:59:58 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: Scanian
”The drift toward the European model ... is going to be stopped only when we are all talking again about why America is exceptional, and why it is so important that America remain exceptional. That requires once again seeing the American project for what it is: a different way for people to live together, unique among the nations of the Earth, and immeasurably precious.”

Do enough Americans still believe that? More to the point, are we willing to fight for it? There may be no questions of greater consequence over the years ahead.

Good article by May, and good quote from Murray. I read Murray's talk last week and I was impressed by his idea of the error of the government's trying to "take the trouble out of things."

BTW, I think Bambi likes the European model, but I think he and the people behind him don't believe it has gone far enough and they want an even more statist and oppressive system. In addition, they are fundamentally anti-European and anti-Western, and you're going to see more non-European influence in the US government (ranging from his calls for more Muslims in our government to the ongoing Kenyan party days at the WH). This is not good.

6 posted on 03/29/2009 3:05:19 AM PDT by livius
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To: Scanian

Do Americans want the United States to be like Europe?
HELL NO


7 posted on 03/29/2009 4:24:50 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Scanian
Until recently the people who immigrated into the US were the people who left their own countries because they did not want to live where opportunities were limited. In other words...they were ambitious and wanted to change their lives and believed they could do so here in America.

That all ended with Ted Kennedy in the 60’s who decided on “Country Quotas”. In other words so many people from each country could come in just because there was space on the list.

These new immigrants came here for many different reasons...many because they could live better on welfare here than they could making a living in their own countries. Many could not speak English, had no skills, no way of making a living, had no relatives to fall back on, no education and no intention of letting go of the way they lived in their “home” country.

Thank you Ted Kennedy for all you have done to America.

8 posted on 03/29/2009 5:26:32 AM PDT by when the time is right
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To: Uncle Ike
The only byproduct of this will be shared misery. Obama is hell bent on destroying capitalism. He will tax every one until we are all equally poor and dependent upon government for our survival. If the last two months are any indication, he's ahead of schedule.
9 posted on 03/29/2009 5:42:54 AM PDT by RU88 (The false messiah can not change water into wine any more than he can get unity from diversity.)
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To: Scanian

Anyone in the U.S. who wants America to be like Europe — should MOVE to Europe.


10 posted on 03/29/2009 10:23:38 AM PDT by MantillaMilitant
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