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A Navy official says the Navy is looking into the matter but decline to comment, saying each case is different and a response will take time.

DFAS bureaucrats are utterly incompetent.

1 posted on 03/25/2009 7:07:21 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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"And it just feels like I'm yelling out there and nobody's hearing," she said. "And I hired a lawyer, thinking he's got a bigger voice but he just got drowned out just like me."

Our government at work. And yes, I can attest to similar treatment from various government agencies too.

2 posted on 03/25/2009 7:08:00 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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All: please try to read the story before commenting.
3 posted on 03/25/2009 7:09:22 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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"And it just feels like I'm yelling out there and nobody's hearing," she said.

Oh they hear...
they just don't care!

4 posted on 03/25/2009 7:10:19 PM PDT by evad (YES!! I WANT Obama's Agenda TO FAIL!!!)
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I’m pretty sure that the standard ROTC contract states that if the student cannot/does not join the military, then all tuition moneys have to be repaid. I


5 posted on 03/25/2009 7:12:20 PM PDT by PERKY2004 (Proud Military Wife -- my DH is in his 26th year of military service! PRAY 4 OUR TROOPS!)
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Absolutely outrageous. If she’d refused to take a commission and serve after graduation or gotten a bad conduct discharge that would be one thing, but for a medical discharge?!?!

Great way to look after your people there.


6 posted on 03/25/2009 7:13:36 PM PDT by SeminoleSoldier
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Well - I’ll be the first to say she owes the Navy (we taxpayers) a refund....

She was unable to fulfill her end of the agreement..

I also suspect her “exercise induced asthma” was a precondition she couldn’t help but be aware of....

She should shut up and pay up...
We taxpayers are tapped out by being the patsy for EVERYONE....


8 posted on 03/25/2009 7:14:09 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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Three years of appeals to the Navy -- and three letters of rejection later -- 24 year-old Anna Viviano now owes $100,000.

Dang. You do not get charged this much in interest unless you borrow the money from the Mob.
13 posted on 03/25/2009 7:17:32 PM PDT by microgood
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Maybe she should have told the Navy that she wanted to go to law school and stay in the Navy. I went to high school with a guy who went all the way through college in NROTC, only to be turned down for officer’s training school because of his eye sight. He ended up a jag. I guess someone decided the glasses didn’t matter so much as a lawyer.


14 posted on 03/25/2009 7:17:45 PM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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It looks as if the Navy did not perform their Due Diligence.

15 posted on 03/25/2009 7:18:59 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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The article does not provide much information.

Is her asthma really that severe that she cannot serve in the military in any capacity? Does she still desire to fulfill her obligation?

18 posted on 03/25/2009 7:24:23 PM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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“considering filing for bankruptcy.”
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I don’t think they let you do that with tuition bills anymore.


21 posted on 03/25/2009 7:28:57 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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Then came the unexpected. During a doctor's visit for allergies, she was diagnosed with asthma. Two months after that, in December 2005, she got news from the Navy.

"And that's when they told me you're being kicked out because you have exercise induced asthma," she recalled.


I can't believe some of the stupid, and downright mean, comments re this story. This ROTC candidate obviously wanted to continue in the program - it states that in the article. The Navy made the decision to rescind their offer.
23 posted on 03/25/2009 7:39:03 PM PDT by khnyny ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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all bureaucrats are utterly incompetent.
Not one exception in the history of the world.


34 posted on 03/25/2009 8:31:18 PM PDT by genghis
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On the other hand, I had a friend (may he RIP) who was diagnosed with Type I diabetes on a sea trip in the Navy.

He never worked another day in his life.

Whether he was in the Navy or not, he would have the disease.

I liked the guy, but it seemed out of whack to me.


48 posted on 03/26/2009 6:51:06 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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49 posted on 03/26/2009 8:41:32 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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I can speak from experience on this issue. I attended 3 years of colleg on an Army ROTC scholarship in the 90’s. In my last year (I would have finished in 3 1/2) I decided to leave college and the Army to pursue a another career. My ROTC contract clearly stated that if I left the program I had to pay back all the tuition and training costs. However, the semester prior to my leaving school I had suffered a lung condition that the Army was aware of. When I gave my letter of resignation to my Professor of Military Science (CO) It stated that I was resigning for personal reasons. He asked me multiple times if my lung condition was the reason I was leaving. Had that been the case I would have been eligible for a medical discharge (and no repayment.) Because of my pride and a desire to keep my military options open I said the lung thing had nothing to do with it, thus giving myself a $40,000 debt that I could have had a doctor waive for me. At that time I had to pay the debt or enlist for active duty. I chose to pay. It doesn’t have to be a lump sujm. They will give you a payment plan. Defense Financing and Accounting Service handles just like any other debt to the DOD. Unless they have changed the contract she should not have to pay if they are rejecting her and not vice versa. I know some guys who left the program and paid because the DOD was going to branch them differently than they had originally been promised. That was a DOD decision but since they were still being offered a commission they had to take it or pay.


51 posted on 03/26/2009 9:53:32 AM PDT by azcap
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Something is odd here. She had to get a physical to get a scholarship.

Later, a medical condition comes up later which was diagnosed by a civilian doctor and voluntarily revealed to the Navy.

If this condition had come up on her Navy commissioning physical, she probably would have been released without having to repay anything. That used to happen when I was in ROTC, and it happens at service academies. The most common problem I recall for ROTC students when I was irregular heartbeats in males. Men do not physically mature until around 21 years old, so an irregular heartbeat might not manifest itself until after the scholarship physical and prior to the commissioning physical. These people never had to pay back their scholarships. But then again, I went to a state university, and I know high cost private universities are a different class of ROTC scholarship. But I know people this happened to at a service academy, and they did not have to pay the money back.

As for asthma, it is hard to see that as disqualifying to all duties if it is controllable. Heck, almost everyone under 30 seems to have asthma now. I don't know if it was based in fact, but in the movie "Blackhawk Down", one of the soldiers has asthma.

60 posted on 03/27/2009 9:32:31 AM PDT by magellan
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I was in NROTC with a guy who had passed his physical and was accepted into the program. 2 years later they found a problem with a heart valve and discharged him. Hew as never asked for money.


61 posted on 03/27/2009 9:49:30 AM PDT by CaptRon (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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Part of the contract that she signed is that she would fulfill the obligations - when she was no longer able to perform should the Navy have just said well, thanks for two good years of once a month meetings for which we get no benefit of service?

I’m tired of whiners.


62 posted on 03/27/2009 9:53:11 AM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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I never understood why anyone would want to go in the Navy when they could join the military instead....

(DUCKING!!!)

63 posted on 03/27/2009 9:56:57 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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