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'Cold Fusion' Rebirth? New Evidence For Existence Of Controversial Energy Source
Science Daily ^
| Mar. 23, 2009
| American Chemical Society
Posted on 03/23/2009 12:42:14 PM PDT by FlameThrower
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Science may be scientific, but is also, too often, a religion. As in belief in global warming or the disbelief in cold fusion.
To: FlameThrower
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posted on
03/23/2009 12:43:56 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
To: FlameThrower
Science may be scientific, but is also, too often, a religionAnd it seems to have become much more in that way
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posted on
03/23/2009 12:44:40 PM PDT
by
valkyry1
To: FlameThrower
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posted on
03/23/2009 12:49:54 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
To: FlameThrower
“Low energy” tells me this is interesting only from a scientific perspective, not an economic one.
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posted on
03/23/2009 12:50:28 PM PDT
by
DManA
To: FlameThrower
About a year ago I read an article that while the total reaction was slightly positive that there were small areas of much greater reaction. They were trying to find out what made local greater reactions.
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posted on
03/23/2009 12:51:08 PM PDT
by
mountainlion
(concerned conservative.)
To: FlameThrower
Although I didn't want the government to throw Trillions of dollars at anything -- if we simply MUST spend huge amounts of money, then a "Manhattan Project" approach aimed at making fusion power a reality would seem to be a reasonable choice, based on economic benefits as well as national security.
I guess that's why we aren't doing it.
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posted on
03/23/2009 12:51:47 PM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(American Revolution II -- overdue)
To: FlameThrower
Now that stimulus money is out there...
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posted on
03/23/2009 12:51:53 PM PDT
by
frithguild
(Can I drill your head now?)
To: frithguild
Now THAT’S just plain funny, right there!
To: FlameThrower
The two sides typically talk past each other. One side focuses on anomalous energy production (where the cause is secondary). The other focuses on whether or not the cause could possibly be nuclear fusion (or any sort of nuclear reaction at all.)
But the question of whether or not anomalous energy production is occurring is separate and distinct from the question of whether or not any sort of nuclear reaction is involved. And whether or not the phenomenon could be economically used by society to produce energy is yet a third issue.
I've long felt that the name "cold fusion" is largely responsible for the controversy.
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posted on
03/23/2009 1:02:12 PM PDT
by
sourcery
(Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
To: DManA
Low energy tells me this is interesting only from a scientific perspective, not an economic one. It depends. If we scale energy sources from "low" to "high," I think that "cold fusion" might well end up being on roughly the same level as the gasoline engine. "Hot fusion," by contrast, being a very high energy source.
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posted on
03/23/2009 1:03:11 PM PDT
by
r9etb
To: FlameThrower
I would sure like to see this riddle solved. Whether it really is cold fusion or whatever, I don’t care. Whether it is useful or not, I don’t care. I just want someone to once-and-for-all show me just what the heck is going on.
To: DManA
Low energy compared to an H-bomb explosion or low energy compared to a light bulb? Scale would be an important descriptor.
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posted on
03/23/2009 1:14:53 PM PDT
by
dangerdoc
(dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
To: FlameThrower
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posted on
03/23/2009 1:27:17 PM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
To: sourcery
Excellent post from you. Nothing else needs to be said.
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posted on
03/23/2009 1:28:17 PM PDT
by
agere_contra
(So ... where's the birth certificate?)
To: FlameThrower
It is ironic that almost immediately after Pons and Fleishmann announced their “cold fusion” results the scientific community was skeptical because further experiments by others could not yield the same results or support their theory. Contrast this to the smoking gun “hockey stick” graph touted by Al Gore's “consensus of scientists” as veritable proof of man caused global warming, despite it never have been duplicated by others or found predictive with historic climate data.
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posted on
03/23/2009 1:28:48 PM PDT
by
The Great RJ
("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
To: valkyry1; neverdem; sionnsar; patton; cogitator
Lettuce see watt happens.
(Some advances in science have happened when the mainstream view was wrong, many others have have occurred when the mainstream view was right. ALL have required ENGINEERING to succeed, and quite frankly, it is in the engineering and funding and detail design that most theoretical advances have failed.)
After all, the THEORY of rocket science was known in the 1920's based on "simple" equations of physics known since Newton's era. It took tens of thousands of man-years of effort to get to today's level of expertise - where NASA STILL blows them up on the launch pad, and has them fly to Mars and Venus - only to fail on re-entry in the last hundred feet. (Er, meters.)
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posted on
03/23/2009 1:37:04 PM PDT
by
Robert A Cook PE
(I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Feet, meeters - eh, one little boo-boo.
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posted on
03/23/2009 1:39:10 PM PDT
by
patton
(If Hawai'i seccedes, is Barack Obama still an illegal alien?)
To: FlameThrower
Next thing ya know, we’re gonna be up to our necks in neutrons! Then what? Eh?
To: ClearCase_guy
Funny that the global warming crowd, the free-eco-everything-crowd, AND the energy-independence-at-any-price-by-conserfvation-mythology, AND the renewable-energy-by-mythology-future-technology-developments-if-Bush-were-not-in-the-WH crowd NEVER EVER even bring up the potentials of Fusion power.
Strange that, isn't it?
The one actual physically possible solution to EVERY one of their problems is NOT even discussed as a potential event.
But solar and wind power are deemed not only economical by 2050, but WILL be legislated into use for 50% - 80% of our power by 2050.
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posted on
03/23/2009 1:42:32 PM PDT
by
Robert A Cook PE
(I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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