Posted on 03/19/2009 3:34:51 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
"What kind of revolution appeals most to you?" read the now-deleted poll question on Sean Hannity's message board: "Military Coup, Armed Rebellion, or War for Secession?"
The next four to eight years are gonna be some fun!
Barely two months into the Obama administration, wing-nuts across the land are frothing at the mouth, talking feverishly of secession, violent revolution, tax revolt, "going Galt," and national divorce. It would be hilarious if it weren't so creepy.
We all had a good laugh this past December when Igor Panarin, dean of the Russian Foreign Ministry's academy for future diplomats, predicted that the financial crisis would eventually lead to widespread unrest, martial law, and, by 2010, a civil war in the US — the end result of which would be a motley collection of rump states like "Atlantic America" and the "Texas Republic," that then glom onto countries such as Canada and Mexico. It's an absurd idea.
Or is it? Perusing some of the sheer insanity spewed on rightist blogs, message boards, and comment threads — the pitchfork-shaking anger directed at this so-called socialist government — one has to wonder just what's percolating in this country. Maybe the big break-up is coming sooner than we think?
Obama talks a lot about his affinity for Abraham Lincoln. Let's just hope he doesn't end up having too much in common with the guy — that in addition to saving the economy, winning two wars, and curbing global warming, he doesn't find himself having to preserve the Union, too.
People are pissed. New faux-populist hero Rick Santelli has been enjoining citizens to register their disgust with the stimulus plan and budget by bombarding the White House and Capitol with tea bags — get it?! (The phenomenon has apparently caused headaches for workers charged with the safety screening of DC mail.) Meanwhile, 4000 people gathered this past Saturday for a so-called "Cincinnati Tea Party." Read one sign: HONK IF I'M PAYING YOUR MORTGAGE.
But protests do only so much. More and more, it seems, nothing less than outright secession will satisfy some of these cranks. The right-wing Web is all atwitter over a recent open letter, spreading from blog to blog like a hanta virus, by one "John J. Wall, Law Student and an American." In it, Wall puts it plainly: he wants a divorce.
"Let's just end it on friendly terms," he writes. "We don't like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. . . . Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA, and the military." (What they'll do with all the guns he doesn't say.)
Ironically, when not busy fomenting revolution or concocting a plan to carve up the continental US, conservatives act a lot like the "hippies" that Wall went on to lambaste in his letter — thumbing their nose at authority and threatening to drop out of society.
It was reported on military.com last month that a soldier, First Lieutenant Scott Easterling, who is stationed in Iraq, has balked at following orders: "Until Mr. Obama releases a 'vault copy' of his original birth certificate for public review," he declared, "I will consider him neither my commander in chief nor my president, but rather, a usurper to the office — an impostor."
And the latest bit of in(s)anity making the rounds in conservative circles in is the notion of "going Galt," in which angry rich people protest Obama's fiscal policies by following the lead of John Galt —übermensch protagonist of Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged — and removing their ostensibly valuable productivity from society.
Why? Because "a general strike among the wealth producers," as Michelle Malkin calls it, will help keep that wealth out of the grubby hands of the lower classes — those "moochers who claim your product by tears," in Rand's piquant description. Sigh.
Are we fated to fracture into Jesus Land and the People's Republic of Massafornia? Probably not. But maybe! Until and unless that day arrives, however, ours remains a riven nation. But if Malkin and their ilk want to "drop out" in the meantime, more power to 'em. It'll be nice, frankly, not to have to hear them talk for a while.
The secessionists did not even give Lincoln a chance before they tried to break up the Union. That’s my definition of wild men.
John 3:19-20
19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
As long as we are the ones who are armed, we can take it back. Once Obama's Blueshirts are established it may become impossible.
Would building an Army and invading the south to force your political views on others, is that not a bit radical, perhaps "wild"?
There’s a big difference between central planning and coordinated effort.
that would be sweet...but it will never happen
good to hear from you btw
We see it as “giving them a chance”,
they, like Islamists, see such efforts as signs of weakness, that we won’t fight their encroachment.
Obama is the legal president, we need to support him as commander in chief and chief custodian of our nations security. We need to respect the office more than those on the far left did when GW Bush was in office. That does not mean that we should not do everything we can as the loyal opposition to defeat his harmful domestic policy.
Then there's this silliness about “going Galt”. The inescapable laws of the marketplace will slowly and undramatically do what this recourse to Ayn Rand's character promises. But the workings of nature do not provide ratings and notoriety to cute conservative media commentators. “”
As one of the biggest liberal, guilt-ridden Southerners on FR, I am not surprised to see this come from you. You never direct your venom at the left and instead choose to deride those of us on the right. I think most on FR can come to the obvious conclusion that your are at best a moderate - RINO, which is exactly what we do not need to hear right now.
Never lose heart,
read up on the “FP-45 Liberator Pistol”.
The concept is to use a cheap weapon that you can make to get the hardware that the enemy is using to oppress you.
No, it won’t. So the soap bax and the ballot box have become ineffective. That leaves us with one box left.
FReegards amigo!
You’ve left out a couple boxes, but you’re right - they’ve made peaceful revolution impossible, making non-peaceful means necessary.
Other boxes:
Moving box - move from one state to another that has laws more in line with your desire for liberty. This was made moot by making every law at the federal level.
Jury box - appeal laws and government policies through the 3rd branch. Totally taken over by activist judges that seek to impose their vision of society on everyone else.
How about private?
I like the idea of “going Galt” best. That way, we can watch all the Obama voters cry about how they are not getting all the government we paid for.
Maybe we should name it “Galt Day.”
Only until he proves himself, as I suspect, unwilling to act in our defense.
Damned right there’s no reason to secede! If you support the constitution you fight to preserve the union and the constitution, not cede ground to the traitors.
“Only until he proves himself, as I suspect, unwilling to act in our defense.”
Those were Private Kangeroo’s words not mine. I am not for secession, but am for fighting our socialist president by any legal means possible. The private echos the words of David Frum and is quite condescending to us on the right.
You are whats wrong with our country. There are other countries you would be happier in like Iran, North Korea, Cuba. I am sure they would welcome a smart guy like you. Feel free to leave at any time.
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