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Rock Layers Folded, Not Fractured: Flood Evidence Number Six
AiG ^ | March 15, 2009 | Andrew Snelling, Ph.D.

Posted on 03/17/2009 8:36:04 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Rock Layers Folded, Not Fractured

Flood Evidence Number Six

by Andrew A. Snelling

March 15, 2009

How could a series of sedimentary layers fold without fracturing? The only way is for all the sedimentary layers to be laid down in rapid succession and then be folded while still soft and pliable.

If the global Flood, as described in Genesis 7–8, really occurred, what evidence would we expect to find? Wouldn’t we expect to find rock layers all over the earth that are filled with billions of dead animals and plants that were rapidly buried and fossilized in sand, mud, and lime? Yes, and that’s exactly what we find...

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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
FWIW, ice-age floods (from the melting of the monster ice-sheet that covered most of Canada, and large parts of the U.S.) were so massive that they sculpted geographic features.

True, but the hallmark of glacial erosion is shattered rock. Jumbled bolder fields and rock of different layers jumbled together as they were bulldozed down the slope. Its the opposite of the smooth folds being discussed in the original post.

You do get some sedimentation from glacial till, rock powdered much finer than talcum powder. But it ends up in perfect horizontal layers at the bottom of lakes and oceans. If you try to bend it it while still submerged it just puffs up into silt and then settles out horizontal again. It has to get dried out and compressed before it becomes rock again.
21 posted on 03/17/2009 9:15:02 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


22 posted on 03/17/2009 9:15:34 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: editor-surveyor

DNA is there to prevent evolution - placemarker.


23 posted on 03/17/2009 9:16:23 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: GonzoGOP

[[Like I said I’m not arguing the religion, just pointing out that the rock bending argument doesn’t support the theory of rapid sedimentation.]]

Actually it DOES support it- could htere be OTHER explanations as well? Sure- however there would need to be evdience to back up another scenario- do we have htose evidences? Or do the evidences we have more uspport world flood? Are the evidences just anectdotal? Or are they worldwide evidneces that seem ot have occured at the same time?- We can’t say that because folding has a couple of explanation probabilities that one is ruled out or another isn’t possible unless there is a perponerance of evidences for one or hte other hypothesis to establish a beyond reasonable doubt case.


24 posted on 03/17/2009 9:16:27 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: steve-b

no, we dont find all fossils in complete order

there are many cases of fossils found in mixed and even an order reversed according to evolutionary theory


25 posted on 03/17/2009 9:16:54 AM PDT by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: editor-surveyor
I was chatting with the Creator the other day, and the Creator thinks your a moron. this is the Creator's 7th Universe. The first 5 were duds, number 6 lasted 42 billion years. The Creator is pretty happy with 7, as over 70,000 self aware species have evolved in our galaxy alone. The Creator mentioned that adjusting a few of the key forces in the sub atomic physics made the difference.

Most of the 70,000 did not make it beyond 50,000 earth years.

26 posted on 03/17/2009 9:19:35 AM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: CottShop
Actually- yeah they would have died- this wasn’t just a nice little trickle event- the pressures and sediments were massive- some might have survived but it’s almost a certainty some would have died and been buried alive as we have fossils of fish in the act of giving birth that were fossilized.

Curiously, of the ones that died, it seems that in nearly every case, of the fish that were killed, all the fish of that species were killed, and we find very few fossils of species of fish that still survive today.

27 posted on 03/17/2009 9:20:56 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: stubernx98

Whatever you’re smoking, I wouldn’t show it to the neighbors.


28 posted on 03/17/2009 9:22:37 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: tacticalogic

Are you honestly postulating that the rapid currents and deposition involved in a GLOBAL FLOOD would not rapidly bury and fossilize any aquatic animals?


29 posted on 03/17/2009 9:23:13 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: CottShop

That definitely seems to be their m.o.


30 posted on 03/17/2009 9:24:42 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: tacticalogic
"There should be no fossils of aquatic animals to speak of, since they wouldn't have been killed, and therefore wouldn't have left any fossils behind"

That makes no sense at all. The flood waters were intensely hot, and very little could have survived.

31 posted on 03/17/2009 9:25:05 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Who cares? There was either a flood or there wasn’t. The world formed naturally or God made it, life was created or started spontaneously. Whether or not any of these things are true, no matter which side you take,right now those of us in the US need to think about Bozo and how to get him out of office,peacefully of course, before the next several years have passed. If we don’t you won’t have to worry about religious texts, theories or facts because religion, except for perhaps Islam, will be gone in the US, along with many other freedoms, particularly the freedom to express ones self or to defend ones self. Get with it and stop worrying about stuff that doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter because if someone doesn’t believe the flood took place that doesn’t mean it didn’t. Follow your faith and let other people alone about it and concentrate on the terrible threats we face now in our own country.


32 posted on 03/17/2009 9:25:27 AM PDT by calex59
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To: editor-surveyor
That makes no sense at all. The flood waters were intensely hot, and very little could have survived.

How did the fish and other sea animals survive? Were there whales on the arc? If there were, how did Noah get them there?

33 posted on 03/17/2009 9:29:05 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Have you had to jump?

You seem to have lost your place.


34 posted on 03/17/2009 9:32:38 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: calex59
The world formed naturally or God made it

Barney Frank has his entire eternity invested in the lie that their is no God, no Creator, no right, no wrong.

There is no debate. Our freedoms in the U.S.A. come from God, not government, not Barney, not Obama.

35 posted on 03/17/2009 9:34:00 AM PDT by OriginalIntent (undo all judicial activism and its results)
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To: editor-surveyor

Do you lose your place by asking the wrong questions?


36 posted on 03/17/2009 9:34:46 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: steve-b
Instead, we find fossils in the specific order of evolutionary descent.

It's pretty remarkable that evolution managed to mimic the overall order of fossils that we would expect from a global flood. After all, if evolution had started with aerial life first and then worked its way down to deep ocean life and this was reflected in the fossil record, the global flood hypothesis would be clearly incompatible. Instead we see a general order to the fossils that matches the Flood order, from deep ocean life to shallow ocean life to the antediluvian floating forest ecosystem to continental margins life and up into the highlands.

Floods are energetic events, but so long as there is still a lot of energy present in the floodwaters the things carried in the water will not be deposited. Only as the energy levels diminish will things be deposited. Thus your notion that a flood would jumble things up is precisely wrong. In some cases this would occur (as when waves strike against a cliff) but in general an orderly pattern would develop as energy levels gradually diminished and sedimentary loads dropped out.

37 posted on 03/17/2009 9:36:30 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: GonzoGOP
For clarity — I was just saying that it's accepted science that the world has experienced some massive floods. Floods well beyond anything in our direct experience. I wasn't trying to say that the effects would be the same as the flood reported in the Bible.

The effects of these glacial outburst floods are quite different from the erosion caused by the movement (and eventual gradual retreat) of glaciers. You've described some of those effects. You could also mention eskers and fjords. The effects of an outburst flood are like the aftermath of the bursting of a man-made dam.

38 posted on 03/17/2009 9:36:48 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: calex59

==Who cares?

Obviously, we do.


39 posted on 03/17/2009 9:37:21 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: calex59
Who cares? There was either a flood or there wasn’t.

i care... where i stand on this issue determines much about my worldview...

40 posted on 03/17/2009 9:39:48 AM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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