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More Functional Non-Coding DNA Found (Darwinist "junk DNA" prediction going down in flames)
CEH ^ | March 12, 2009

Posted on 03/16/2009 8:18:46 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

More Functional Non-Coding DNA Found

March 12, 2009 — Another finding undermines the concept of “junk DNA.” A team of scientists in Massachusetts found over a thousand functional RNA transcripts from intergenic sequences. These RNA transcripts, coming not from genes but from regions earlier thought to be non-functional, take part in diverse functions from stem cell pluripotency to HOX gene developmental processes to cell proliferation...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; evolution; goodgodimnutz; intelligentdesign; junkdna
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To: GodGunsGuts

How do you dare talk about genetics or Eli genetics without ever having actually stdied EITHER???)?)????????????


121 posted on 03/17/2009 10:53:36 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: editor-surveyor

Wow...your science ignorance knows no bounds!!!

You DO know there ate scientists out there whose sole existence is to prove other scientists wrong...right????

Thats what I thought.


122 posted on 03/17/2009 11:02:30 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: editor-surveyor

So you are completely ignorant concerning plasmids.

AWESOME!!!!


123 posted on 03/17/2009 11:06:42 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clintpon years...)
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To: txnuke

...and I know the same change in a subspecies of white-footed mouse in Yarmouth, MA to be true in a short period of time.

YOU got the answers.....why’d this subspecies turn lighter-coated on my watch?????????????

Hint: because the predators had better visibility with the 0darker mice.


124 posted on 03/17/2009 11:13:55 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clintpon years...)
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To: editor-surveyor

Re: 107 “DAMNED THEM JOOOOOOOS!!!!!!!!!


125 posted on 03/17/2009 11:18:30 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clintpon years...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

Make that “EPI-genetics”

Damned iPod...


126 posted on 03/17/2009 11:23:14 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clintpon years...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
Uhhhhh...he’s revering to POST infancy.

Well, duh. I know what adult means. But that does not negate that fact that all mammals have the ability to metabolize lactose. And you answer the why??? concerning the supposed advantage since lactose metabolism is the default condition for mammals and those with the supposed advantage are a minority of the human species not to mention of all mammals.

127 posted on 03/18/2009 3:41:06 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: GodGunsGuts

“I could go on and on...”

and you do.....you do.....

I’m not sure if you deliberately misrepresent science, or if you are simply not smart enough to understand how science works. Which ever it is, you certainly do go on....and on.....and on.....and on.....


128 posted on 03/18/2009 3:54:48 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: AndrewC
I turn my car off after I finish driving. Amazingly my car cannot be said to have “disappeared”.

Presently my genes for digestion of lactose are off. The genes cannot be said to have “disappeared”, neither has my ability to digest lactose “disappeared”. If I ate some cereal with milk my lactase genes would turn “on”.

Now if the genes to survive sulfa drugs are present in every bacteria, but merely “off”, then what would be the difference between the 99.9% of bacteria that would die when exposed to sulfa drugs and the 0.1% that would survive?

129 posted on 03/18/2009 6:15:35 AM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: AndrewC
But that does not negate that fact that all mammals have the ability to metabolize lactose.

Not in adulthood. Lactaid is a thriving business, ya know.

130 posted on 03/18/2009 6:17:18 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clintpon years...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

You are joining the co-idiots?

No surprise, I guess. - Obfuscation is the only weapon you have left, isn’t it!


131 posted on 03/18/2009 7:08:28 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
Adding anti-semitism to your repertoire?
132 posted on 03/18/2009 7:09:48 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: allmendream
I turn my car off after I finish driving. Amazingly my car cannot be said to have “disappeared”.

Well, I'm happy for you, but that does not change the common meaning of having something disappear.

Now if the genes to survive sulfa drugs are present in every bacteria, but merely “off”, then what would be the difference between the 99.9% of bacteria that would die when exposed to sulfa drugs and the 0.1% that would survive?

They don't switch the ability back on. Do you claim that each individual bacteria would be exposed to precisely the same environment and be in the same "processing cycle"?

133 posted on 03/18/2009 7:31:22 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: ElectricStrawberry
Not in adulthood. Lactaid is a thriving business, ya know.

So is Beano, but people still get nutrition from legumes. Adults still maintain the ability to metabolize lactose, but at a reduced rate.

From a paper The acceptability of milk and milk products in populations with a high prevalence of lactose intolerance.

A positive standard lactose test is not a reliable predictor of the ability of an individual to consume moderate amounts of milk and milk products without symptoms. In usual situations the quantity of lactose ingested at any one time is much less than in the lactose-tolerance test.

134 posted on 03/18/2009 7:43:55 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: editor-surveyor

I see.....when your complete ignorance concerning DNA is mentioned.....you must resort to pathetic insults.

Lemme know when you’ve educated yourself.....because you simply don’t know what you’re talking about and would do better to just say “God did it” instead of saying such obviously unintelligent comments like “DNA prevents evolution”......which is laughably ignorant.


135 posted on 03/18/2009 11:20:23 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clintpon years...)
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To: tacticalogic
I think it's pretty safe to say that it was not Creationists who origianlly propagated the notion that much of non-coding DNA is nonfunctional:
"It appears that the amount of DNA in organisms is more than is strictly necessary for building them: a large fraction of the DNA is never translated into protein. From the point of view of the individual organism this appears paradoxical. If the ‘purpose’ of DNA is to supervise the building of bodies, it is surprising to find a large quantity of DNA which does no such thing. Biologists are racking their brains trying to think what useful task this apparently surplus DNA is doing. But from the point of view of the selfish genes themselves, there is no paradox. The true ‘purpose’ of DNA is to survive, no more and no less. The simplest way to explain the surplus DNA is to suppose that it is a parasite, or at best a harmless but useless passenger, hitching a ride in the survival machines created by the other DNA."
(Richard Dawkins, The Selfish Gene (1976), pp. 43-44)
[emphasis mine]

The irony of Dawkins noting that biologists were 'racking their brains trying to think what useful task this apparently surplus DNA is doing' was that he apparently felt no need to engage in all that strenuous mental effort himself because he had already reached the conclusion that the 'surplus' DNA was 'useless'.

Cordially,

136 posted on 03/18/2009 11:27:22 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: Diamond
I think it's pretty safe to say that it was not Creationists who origianlly propagated the notion that much of non-coding DNA is nonfunctional:

The claim is that the Creationists and ID proponents have been predicting that this "non-functional" DNA would actually be found to be functional for years.

If that's really is the case, then it's a significant consideration.

If they haven't really been making that prediction for years, but now claim they did, that's also a consideration, but of a different sort.

137 posted on 03/18/2009 11:33:27 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

Insults?

I thought that was your specialty.

If you consider calling you on your attempt to diffuse the facts through obfuscation to be an insult, I can live with that.


138 posted on 03/18/2009 3:08:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

“DNA prevents evolution” is in no way a “fact”....it’s a false claim based in ignorance, nothing more.


139 posted on 03/18/2009 5:04:23 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clintpon years...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

Bla, bla, bla...

You have such exciting tantrums.


140 posted on 03/18/2009 5:18:18 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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