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Republican wants WH candidates to prove citizenship
CNN Political Ticket ^ | 3/13/2009 | Mark Preston

Posted on 03/14/2009 8:14:23 AM PDT by AJMCQ

Rep. Bill Posey, R-Florida, introduced legislation this week requiring candidates to produce a birth certificate to be eligible to run in future presidential elections, triggering a sharp reaction from Democrats who accused him of "questioning President Obama's citizenship." Posey submitted a bill with no fanfare Thursday that instructs the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to be amended to add the birth certificate requirement. The Constitution requires that a president or a vice president be "a natural born citizen." Read: Posey's bill During the presidential campaign, some people — mostly Republicans — questioned whether Obama, who was born in Hawaii, was a U.S. citizen. Obama's mother was a U.S. citizen, while his father was from Kenya. Obama produced a certified copy of his birth certificate from the Hawaii Department of Health, but critics argued that it was a fake or had been altered. The Supreme Court has turned down several requests that it hear challenges to the president's citizenship. "Opponents of President Bush used the 2000 election results and the court decisions to question the legitimacy of President Bush to serve as President," Posey said in a statement. "Opponents of President Obama are raising the birth certificate issue as a means of questioning his eligibility to serve as president. Neither of these situations are healthy for our Republic. "This bill, by simply requiring such documentation for future candidates for President will remove this issue as a reason for questioning the legitimacy of a candidate elected as President." Posey spokesman George Cecala emphasized several times to CNN that the congressman was "not trying to fan the flames" of the Obama citizenship dust-up nor was he "trying to jab someone in the eye." Instead, Posey was "just trying to clarify the law,"

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; florida; obama; obamatruthfile; posey
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To: chris_bdba

“Democrats why not just prove he is a citizen and put this to rest? I think thou dost protest too much!”

Your question belays your Black and White thinking. You have to consider the GRAYS. This isn’t about what the TRUTH is (You’re so Right Wing). No, this is about throwing as many trial lawyers as George Soros can afford at the problem and making it go away.

Kind of like Al Gore and the 2000 election, kind if like what the meaning of “is” is. It’s all relative depending on your legal team.


41 posted on 03/14/2009 9:52:04 AM PDT by AJMCQ (Who is Khalid al-Mansour? You mean Obama didn't get into Harvard on his grades?)
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To: AJMCQ
Even though I think the birther conspiracy theories are foolish, I think this is a good bill.
43 posted on 03/14/2009 10:02:00 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: patriot08; null and void

Ping to number 23

New website for birthers

http://www.birthers.org/OPED/


44 posted on 03/14/2009 10:04:54 AM PDT by stockpirate ("the imposition of socialist tyranny will produce the enslavement of conscience, " Alan Keyes 09)
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To: FrankR
IF the state of "Hawaii" issued CommieBama the COLB to post on the internet, AND, if it is real, THEN why has the Governor of Hawaii SEALED it?

The governor hasn't sealed anything. You need to get your facts straight before shooting your mouth off.

The birthers have made up a lot of things and passing them off as "facts," when they are, in fact, false. The above is but one example.

This whole citizenship thing stinks to high heaven of fraud, and treason. I hope it comes raining down and takes everyone involved in the coverup with it, including the Governor of Hawaii.

Yes, it's a massive conspiracy, involving thousands of elected and appointed government officials, even scores of Republicans./sarcasm

45 posted on 03/14/2009 10:06:22 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Mr Ramsbotham; LucyT; BP2; STARWISE; Polarik; pissant; SatinDoll; ExTexasRedhead; SunkenCiv; ...
...triggering a sharp reaction from Democrats who accused him of "questioning president Obama's citizenship."

Since when is "questioning President Obama's citizenship," and thereby protecting the Constitution, a crime? These 'Rats criticizing Posey and his bill are a bunch of totalitarians. But we've come to expect such viciousness from them.

46 posted on 03/14/2009 10:10:19 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: F15Eagle
And as I understand it, 'factcheck' tried to claim the paper copy was what the online forgery (excuse me) CoLB was displaying from.
47 posted on 03/14/2009 10:12:11 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: F15Eagle
There was a “paper” copy delivered to the Annenberg-owned FactCheck.Org. A paper copy of a CoLB, not the vault birth certificate that O’s lawyers are fighting to protect.

Actually if you go to the Fact Check page, you'll see that the fact-checkers actually went to the certification, not the other way around. They say they were allowed to examine it, and photograph it. Of course their photos were pi$$ poor, and they do not even allege that they were allowed to say, make a copy of it, or take it with them for more detailed examination, taking of forensic quality photos, etc, etc. The only thing that could really be checked would be the seal, and even the photos they did take show a seal that just doesn't look correct.

48 posted on 03/14/2009 10:13:35 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: AJMCQ

There’s hope for the Sunshine State, after all.


49 posted on 03/14/2009 10:13:45 AM PDT by Polarik ("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
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To: AJMCQ
Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"



Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.



Obama's own flacks deny that obama was born in Kenya but do acknowledge that he had a dual citizenship up until 1982

from obama's own site factcheck.org by way of fightthesmears on his dual citizenship at birth

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”


Someone will want to cache the above web page because it will be taken down eventually.

It is well established that Obama did travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. In a tape of his speech at this April 6, 2008 San Francisco Fundraiser, Obama discloses his trip to Pakistan (40:17) when he was in college. On what passport did he travel?
50 posted on 03/14/2009 10:16:29 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: null and void

Awesome!

Florida seems to have jumped on the band wagon with missour! Are there any other states with similar bills in the works?


51 posted on 03/14/2009 10:20:09 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...

Florida Freeper


52 posted on 03/14/2009 10:21:30 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: curiosity
"You need to get your facts straight before shooting your mouth off. "

KMA
53 posted on 03/14/2009 10:23:22 AM PDT by FrankR (We are only enslaved to the extent of charity (bailout) we receive...think about it.)
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To: ViLaLuz

Ping ... meet Dr. Orly Taitz, patriotic naturalized citizen.


54 posted on 03/14/2009 10:24:07 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
I wonder if this is the "Ace in the hole" to get rid of zer0, just in case he turned out to be a total flop...Maybe that's tinfoil hat thinking but these people are capable of some diabolical stuff.

Donning flame suit

You could be right, "always have an exit strategy" is never bad advise. I've often wondered just who is the "little man behind the curtain".
(in my best Church Lady voice) Could it be Satan? Maybe so but the short list has to include Soros 'cuz this whole mess looks like an extension of his machinations since 2000. He's been trying to buy the presidency for eight years and finally figured that if he bought both candidates, he couldn't loose.

Regards,
GtG

55 posted on 03/14/2009 10:24:48 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: AJMCQ

‘...Democrats who accused him of “questioning President Obama’s citizenship.” ....

my response would be...if the shoe fits.....
in most places, voters must show ID (rightly so), so WHY shouldn’t the person who would hold the highest position in our country show proof of who he or she is???


56 posted on 03/14/2009 10:29:22 AM PDT by 4integrity
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
and finally figured that if he bought both candidates, he couldn't loose.

Indeed. What amazes me is in this day and age we have plausible, and even very good reason to believe that this is truly happening in our own country. I've thought and said that we experienced and are witnessing a political coup for some time now.

These times are testing the will of good men and women for sure, the tipping point seems near, IMO

57 posted on 03/14/2009 10:31:58 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (FUBO, he says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush - and zer0 has already failed)
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To: AJMCQ

BUT NOTE - the first statement REPUBLICAN (singular) oh they love to play on words....


58 posted on 03/14/2009 10:45:00 AM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: null and void

Good news, thanks for the ping.


59 posted on 03/14/2009 10:50:50 AM PDT by Oorang (Tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: AJMCQ

Yes, pretty damn good for a CNN article.
Things are building:
Obama Eligibility issue Must be Resolved Soon http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd436.htm from Devvy Kidd “The frustration and rage is escalating.” and
Court: No need for state to check prez’ eligibility http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=91613 and .pdf of All 3 of Leo Donofrio’s QUO WARRANTO articles http://devvy.net/pdf/mar09/leo_all_parts.html from Devvy Kidd +
SHE DID IT! http://defendourfreedoms.us/2009/03/14/i-did-it.aspx Way to go Orly!

Congressman introduces Eligibility Bill http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=4592 and http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=91649 Yeah Bill Posey!

Open Letter to the Secretary of Defense http://defendourfreedoms.us/2009/03/12/open-letter-to-the-secretary-of-defense.aspx?results=1#SurveyResultsChart


60 posted on 03/14/2009 10:55:14 AM PDT by Art in Idaho
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