Posted on 03/13/2009 7:14:05 AM PDT by marktwain
BOISE, Idaho — An Idaho gun shop that went to federal court to keep the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives from pulling its gun license has reached a settlement with the agency.
Terry and Ryan Horsley of Red's Trading Post in Twin Falls asked the court to review their case in 2007, after the ATF revoked their license. The ATF said the shop had repeatedly violated gun sales rules. The Horsleys said they had been targeted by the agency and that most of the problems were clerical, such as using abbreviations on gun sale documentation.
Red's Trading Shop attorney Christopher Chiafullo wouldn't discuss the terms of the settlement, but says the gun shop has implemented new procedures to eliminate the possibility of similar problems.
The Assistant U.S. Attorney representing the ATF could not be immediately reached for comment.
This has been what? Years in court?
Using abbreviations of forms??????
You mean that’s NOT a death penalty offense.... yet?
I remember how vehement the guy guiding me in filling out the last “yellow form” was about abbreviations.
No “st” for street, “ave” for avenue,
no “Mo” or “Ks” for Missouri or Kansas.
Sounds to me like someone with a bureaucratic bug up his a$$.
Those agents in the ATF that pushed this
should be forced, INDIVIDUALLY, to reimburse the businessman for his time and costs in defending himself.
you mean like a fascist prick?
ATF should be a convenience store..............
Details here, from American Hunter magazine:
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/Articles/Read.aspx?id=281&issue=28
I wonder what the ratio of gun owners to ATF agents is?
It WOULD be funny if the FCC, pardon me the Federal Communications Commission, began enforcing a "no abbreviations" policy on everyone who wished to exercise their First Amendment rights, would not it?
A thought:
Lawyers defending those being pursued by the ATF should require the same “no abbreviations” standard in ALL correspondence.
The ratio don’t matter. The problem is the ATF comes in with a entire gang, armed with military implements, and squashes any potential resistance. Even if the resistance is justified. Those jack booted thugs operate on the premise that everyone is a guilty militia operative.
It’s all an intimidation tactic.
Sounds like it’s a matter of will.
At this point in time, the government has more will to suppress opposition
than the oppressed have to resist it.
That may change quickly.
Why did I have pictures of Wilson Blair when I read this?
A better question is how many "Henry Bowman"'s there are to ATF agents.
The government is the champion of abbreviations. They even wrote a book of contractions.
As a Conservative, I grew up with a “Support your local police” belief.
As an adult whose family members have receive “B.S.” category traffic tickets by cops being overzealous to make their monthly ticket quota, I now see the cops as the enemy.
So, the criminals are the enemy. The cops are the enemy.
Not good.
Don’t the cops know that ticketing and lying on the ticket do much harm to citizen-police relationships?
i.e. I fail to come to complete stop at a sign. Almost complete...maybe down to 3 to 5 mph, 3 mph probably more accurate. The cop writes 10 mph on the ticket. No way I did 10.
i.e. wife gets pulled over by small town cop for going 42 mph in a 25 mph zone. No radar of course. Cop writes “est. 42 mph” on the ticket. No way. Wife argues with cop. Cop then adds failure to come to complete stop at stop sign.
Local cities need money.
Funny, both I and the counter man at the local Walmart abbreviated all of that on the form when I bought my shotgun from them.
If it's good enough for the IRS and the Post Office, it should damn-well be good enough for the BATFE.
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