[SJackson]

I'll let Christians speak for themselves, but I can't imagine where this minister gets the idea that Judaism does't approach the sex act as a source of joy, both as a manifestation and/or fulfillment of the Commandment to procreate, and as a joyous reinforcement of the relationship between husband and wife.

But I have an idea, it likely revolves around the unmentioned concept of husband and wife, yes once upon a time wives, and her inclusion of gay, straight, bisexual, transgendered in her revisionist Biblical version of joyous sex. She clearly doesn't recognize, not should she, she's not Jewish though she arrogates herself to speak specifically from the Hebrew Bible, that the sexual impulse, like many things from hunger to jealousy to greed, stem from our weaker (actual evil) impulses as well as the good, and must be controlled. It's not only about what brings short term joy. Ask any gerbil.

My dogs thank her for not including them in her list of "biblically approved" partners, and warn anyone thinking otherwise to stay away, else they'll be missing parts.

[SJackson]

Should have added, as far as I’m concerned, she can have joyous sex with anyone or ones she likes, as long as they’re of age, pontificating that that’s mainstream Jewish or Christian (I’ll speak for Christians here, I know what they think of Unitarians) thought is dishonest.

[GeronL]

Universalist Unitarian is not Christian IMO

Christians love the joy of sex... within the bounds of marriage

[bilhosty]

How can she be a minister. Unitarians are not Christians therefore she cannot be a minister.

[humblegunner]

Minister works at combining sex and religion

When will the Catholic & LDS bashing STOP???

[JennysCool]

Photographic evidence is certainly needed to determine Haffner’s expertise.

[martin_fierro]

Like E.G. Marshall in a wig.

[buccaneer81]

I'll let Christians speak for themselves, but I can't imagine where this minister gets the idea that Judaism does't approach the sex act as a source of joy, both as a manifestation and/or fulfillment of the Commandment to procreate, and as a joyous reinforcement of the relationship between husband and wife.

That's exactly what we as Catholics believe as well.

[OneVike]

And she continues to advocate for marriage rights for gay and lesbian couples.

Try as this woman may, she is not helping anyone with her new aged ideas of sexual freedom and openness that she thinks the Bible and Christianity convey. Paul wrote to the Romans about these kinds of people.

For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.(Roman1:26-27)

Another sick individual that wants to change Christianity into what they want it to be, but they too shall fail.

God help this woman and anyone she infects with her heretical ideas Amen.

[Melas]

I think I know where she’s coming from. It’s certainly not biblical, but after becoming a Christian myself, I met more than just a few professing Christians who act as though they’re terrified that someone, somewhere is going to have an orgasm. They aren’t the majority, but they’re loud enough to appear larger than their real numbers.

[Nervous Tick]

>> Haffner is a Unitarian Universalist minister

I see. Unitarian.

Then it’s SEX (almost rhymes with “secular”) with a capital S-E-X.

and religion with a little r. the smaller, the better (shhhh...)

2 Timothy 4:3

“3For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.”

Yep, that’s the Unitarians in a nutshell.

[Fiddlstix]

Bump

[NRA2BFree]

Haffner is a Unitarian Universalist minister

Speaking as a "born again" Christian, I will tell you the number one red flag that went up is that women are NOT to assume the positon as a "preacher," "minister" or whatever they want to call themselves.

The next red flag is that she belongs to the Unitarian church. They are NOT a Christian church, no matter what they call themselves. She also said that she is a "Universalist Minister." That means she buys into the NWO/global church.

Last, but certainly not least, is that she accepts homosexuals, bisexuals, transgeners and their perverted sexual acts, which is TOTALLY against what the Bible teaches.

Obviously, this woman has not read the Bible with any kind of understanding because the Bible could not be more clear about sexual relations being ONLY for married couples. Adultery is also forbidden.

[Slings and Arrows]

It's hard to have sex when you're an atheist. What do you shout?

[Disambiguator]

First Unitarian Society in Madison

I bet THEIR potlucks are a lot of fun! I imagine that all the food smells like patchouli oil.

[Danae]

Uhhhhh errrr.....

Ummmm......

>.<

[LiteKeeper]

She can hardly be called a “minister” and be a member of the Unitarian church. Tough enough to call that a Church.

[a fool in paradise]

Haffner told a crowd at the First Unitarian Society

The giveaway...

[a fool in paradise]

Haffner is a Unitarian Universalist minister who in her previous career was head of SIECUS

And moreso these are the people most closely aligned with advancing the sex positive agenda (end ALL moral judgements against ALL sexual pairings. ALL pairings).

[a fool in paradise]

What she found, she said, was a wealth of stories about man and woman being created at the same time and told to go have sex -- "be fruitful and multiply," was the phrase in Genesis. Even in the second creation story in Genesis, where man and woman are created separately, there is a sense that they were there for companionship to one another, for pleasure.

She must've not read as far as the 10 Commandments and the prohibition on committing adultery or coveting your neighbor's wife.

I wonder which sex positive organization it was that came up with the term "Sex Negativity" to describe Christianity.

[a fool in paradise]

Jesus was all about welcoming the people who had been marginalized for their sexual activity -- a woman at a dinner who washed his feet with her hair, a woman at a well who had had many lovers, a woman caught in the act of adultery.

Go forth and SIN NO MORE!

This woman who is "preaching" is deceiving the flock and she knows it.

PS the sex positive agenda groups are against abstinence not because it doesn't work but because they find it to be unhealthy, a denial of sexual desires, and they seek to see everyone sexual active at every age.