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No more love for Lucy? (33 years of evolutionary propoganda up in smoke)
Journal of Creation ^ | Ryan Jaroncyk

Posted on 03/11/2009 11:40:00 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

No more love for Lucy?

Ryan Jaroncyk

For over the last 30 years, the supposedly 3 . 2 Ma old Australopithecus afarensis specimen known as ‘Lucy’ has been boldly proclaimed as the ancestor of all humanity in magazines, television shows, books, newspapers and museums. However, Tel Aviv University anthropologists have published a study casting serious doubt on Lucy’s role as mankind’s ape ancestor.1 Based on a comparative analysis of jaw bones in living and extinct primates, researchers concluded that Lucy and members of her kind should be ‘placed as the beginning of the branch that evolved in parallel to ours.’ In other words, Lucy should no longer be considered to be our direct ancestor. Lucy’s demise falsifies 33 years of evolutionary hyperbole and propaganda...

(Excerpt) Read more at creation.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: afarensis; australopithecus; creation; evolution; flintstones; godsgravesglyphs; goodgodimnutz; hollywoodreds; intelligentdesign; junkdarwin; lucy; telaviv; university; unnaturallyselective
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To: Little Ray

See post 76.


101 posted on 03/11/2009 12:59:28 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: April Lexington
So... size doesn’t really matter?

You mean I wasted my money on that pump? Dang!

102 posted on 03/11/2009 1:00:19 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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To: Finny

It’s difficult to wrap comprehension around a theory which has so many holes and conveinient loose ends that Piltdown Man could pilot a Mac Truck through it.


103 posted on 03/11/2009 1:02:14 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: Norman Bates

I asked you to prove your statement of what you call facts.
I will gladly back up anything that I profess as a fact.
Can you say the same?


104 posted on 03/11/2009 1:03:10 PM PDT by newcats (Natural Born Skeptic)
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To: Oztrich Boy
If the first Christians were Jews, why are there still Jews?

I know that question is asked in a condescending way, but the fact is, the Nation of Israel was destroyed, the language was dead, but they were restored, in Israel because God said He would do it. What you are seeing evolve now is the preparation for the attempted annihilation of Israel.

Many people will be surprised when God intervenes, some won't.

105 posted on 03/11/2009 1:04:24 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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To: Little Ray

Give it up, they do not wish to hear facts.


106 posted on 03/11/2009 1:04:43 PM PDT by newcats (Natural Born Skeptic)
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To: varmintman
Great.. a 12 year old article that has been debunked by several in the last 3 years, not the least of which is the completely decoded Neanderthal genome, which puts “us and them” as coexisting, and co-evolutionary species that share 99.7% of the same DNA sequence.

Now your post and your “proof” are both hogwash.

107 posted on 03/11/2009 1:06:40 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Norman Bates

Somebody using Lamarck as source completely discredits everything that follows...


108 posted on 03/11/2009 1:07:29 PM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: newcats

To be fair I’ve now made a lot of statements on this thread. If you can point out which statement I claimed as fact I’ll be happy to try to clarify. But I don’t think I’ve claimed anything as fact except that Piltdown Man (that creature championed by that wannabe Charles Darwin imposter Clarence Darrow) is a hoax.


109 posted on 03/11/2009 1:07:39 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: Little Ray; Diamond

Who’s Lamarck? Are you saying those attributions were falsified?


110 posted on 03/11/2009 1:08:49 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: newcats

I wish to hear facts. Name one documented positive mutation that has been progenated in humanity in the past 2000 years.


111 posted on 03/11/2009 1:12:11 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: Norman Bates
Ya know, you might try reading some science texts on the subject to help with that "wrapping comprehension" problem you have.

I read the texts because I wanted to learn more about God's wondrous ways.

You embrace anti-science propaganda because you seek vengeance (which belongs to the Lord, not to you) against a field of science that offends your idea of how God performs His miracles.

112 posted on 03/11/2009 1:12:30 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: newcats; Little Ray; Finny
1a. According to evolution theory, man is not "evolved from ape,"

1b. Give it up, they do not wish to hear facts.

Exhibits 1a and 1b, illustrating how Evos confuse theories with facts and are, thus, themselves prima facia evidence against evolution.

113 posted on 03/11/2009 1:12:44 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: xcamel
YOU are the one dealing in BS here. There's a big picture which includes the neanderthal DNA AND the anomalous total lack of any evidence of crossbreeding between ourselves and neanderthals which James Shreve spoke of in "Neanderthal Peace" in 96 and the one damned well explains the other.

This is another one of these cases facts being "debunked" mainly in evolosers' minds. You're not going to convince anybody here that nobody knew how to do DNA studies in 1997 - 1999 which is when we first started seeing neanderthal DNA studies and that other article I noted which says the same thing from a major study institute is dated 04, and is definitely not twelve years old.

114 posted on 03/11/2009 1:14:58 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: Little Ray

Somebody who discredits Lamarck is a discredit to discrediting.


115 posted on 03/11/2009 1:15:36 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Finny

Extremely well put.


116 posted on 03/11/2009 1:16:11 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Cedric

Short memory?
“Lucy” is said to be a human ancestor because human or near human footprints were found near her remains and are assumed to be 3M years old because of that fact”

Who said this other than you?


117 posted on 03/11/2009 1:16:32 PM PDT by newcats (Natural Born Skeptic)
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To: Finny

You assume a lot about my motives which I haven’t revealed.

Were any of those science texts written by apologists for Al Gore? If you want to talk about anti-science propaganda by all means let’s do so but don’t use the left tactic of basically calling be a knuckle-dragger just because I am skeptical of Darwinian macroevolution.


118 posted on 03/11/2009 1:19:16 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: varmintman

However, you fail to cite any current genomic work that completely tossed out the conclusions of the work(s) you so passionately quote.

Buy a modern science journal, will ya? You’re trying far too hard to be the poster child for modern luddites.


119 posted on 03/11/2009 1:20:10 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: massgopguy
If we decended from the apes, why are there still apes?

Common ancestor, not descended from. However it happened, God MADE it happen!

120 posted on 03/11/2009 1:21:26 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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