For instance. I would like to invite Obama over to my place to play with my cat. Is that so wrng?
Posted on 03/09/2009 10:16:59 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Excerpts:
As you all know, Skyewriter recently wrote about the dangerous incitement to violence and direct threats at Free Republic. I also posted and directed you to Skywriter’s blog. Skyewriter and I were deluged with gun bloggers and other right wingnuts (and just nuts) who denied that this was a direct threat.
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One week after Skywriter posted and I directed those on my blog to the post, the Daily Kos posted on the same topic. They detailed a thread in which the wingnuts were ranting, no doubt with white froth at the mouth, about our duly elected President who enjoys exceptionally high approval ratings in this country and who most of America thinks is doing a great job. You can see the post here.
Daily Kos Noted that while wingnut talk like this is nothing terribly new, it is more of the same started by Sarah Palin at her divisive qand hateful rallies and similar to Alan Keyes call for action to “stop” President Obama.
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But it is not just a question of a Republican leadership and moral vacuum. Where is the media? CNN is more interested in showing homes paid for by the USPS than exposing this clear and growing danger to a man who was elected by a clear majority of this country and who the majority approves of to this day. The rest of the media is equally irresponsible in failing to cover this story and Fox is the grandaddy of them all as they are constantly whipping up the angry white men out there with their no fact based news. The garbage that they spew is delusional. Talk about hijacking democracy!
Today the Daily KOS posted a follow up because like Skye and me, they reported that thread at the Free republic to the FBI. Contrary to all of the nastiness that Skye was subjected to that what she quoted on her blog was really nothing, the FBI and Secret service do think it is something indeed. You can see that post here. Here are some excerpts from the FBI about the wingnuts:
"The number of threats to Obama as an individual, not the office, since election day is unprecedented. The Secret Service typically handles this stuff exclusively, but has had to look elsewhere for help."
"The FBI monitors and investigates all the white supremacist groups and websites and the guy I know in NY told me that Obama’s election has turned into the best recruiting tool they have ever used. Membership is up for the first time in I don’t know how long, and new hate websites are emerging every week. Some of the websites actually call for Obama’s assassination in their title!"
"The only solace I can offer is that, typically, these assholes are usually just that: a bunch of bored blowhards, terrified by the pace of a world that is passing them by, who have nothing better to do than complain, blame others for their shitty lives and spew their hatred and pitifully ignorant views online."
"This is not to say that Obama isn’t in constant peril…"
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I’m preaching and this has all been said before. I guess I’m just venting because the level of ignorance in this country actually still astounds me. We act horrified and shocked at the uneducated peasant masses blindly following crazy Muslim clerics when we have essentially the same thing going on here.
I could not agree more. It doesn’t matter whether the wingnuts are right wingnuts or left wingnuts. This is not acceptable and puts the people making the threats against President Obama in the same position as Osama bin laden - flat out murderers.
According to the post, the FBI (and I know the secret service as well) has requested our help in exposing the militia groups and the wingnuts threatening our democracy.
He also invites us to help “expose these morons whenever we can”. Distasteful as it is to have to venture into the belly of the beast, let’s keep an eye on the wingnuts and report any and every instance of hate speech, particularly threats of violence, whether against our President or anyone at all. The Secret Service and the FBI actually do investigate these people, as The Red Pen’s rec’d diary from yesterday attests. Reporting them works. So let’s keep the heat turned up. While we’ll probably never change their minds, we can at least stigmatize the hell out of them, make it less attractive to fence-sitters to be associated with them, and make their lives a little more miserable than they already so clearly are.
Here is the contact page for the US Secret Service.
Here is the contact page for the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
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These people are blind, ignorant racists for the most part who cannot stand the fact that an African American family is in the White House. As for the rest of them, from what I have read, they seem to be buying into the socialism/marxism/communism rants of people like Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter and all of the other “Republicans” who are spreading the same garbage in a desperate attempt to hang onto their dittohead base. As far as I am concerned, if they do not step up and denounce this behavior, should anything happen, they should be investigated and/or prosecuted for their part in whipping up a crown of wingnuts who don’t read and apparently can’t think too clearly either.
I’ve actually not heard anyone indicate that they’d like to see violence against Obama, just that they don’t want his policies to take root. But I used to hear violence and hatred spoken against Bush daily. Yes, they are massive, astounding hypocrites. But we knew this.
You just told my story, as well. Almost exactly the same.
And, you told it very, very well. Thank you.
papasmurf, I suspect it is the story of most of us. I for one, am a bit tired of the ‘racist’ labeling and identity politics where it is not deserved.
So does this mean we can’t quote the Founding Fathers about things like the tree of liberty?
Note to self, find a wacko site where I can post what I REALLY feel without embarrassing Jim Rob.
All that needs to be said about catherine, the author, is that she is a great demonstration, and validation, of the GIGO concept!
Dontcha just love it when the kiddies with the Guy Fawkes “V” masks are now queueing up to turn state informant?
“I for one, am a bit tired of the ‘racist’ labeling and identity politics where it is not deserved.”
Agreed. It seems to me it’s being purposely flamed and stoked.
If President Obama were an enemy agent, secretly attempting to destroy the U.S., what would he be doing differently?
*crickets chirping*
I fear this is just the beggining.
Seriously, these people assault the innocents in the womb with scalpels and suction and call us the wingnuts for asserting our first and second amendment rights? The last paragraph is hysterical, accusing us of not being able to read...like any of them ever read anything from the Constitution or the founders.
Sheesh....it's a dark day in this country when dissent is no longer patriotic (Hillary, could you scream this at your people again? They've forgotten.)
"I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration."
I’ll send ya cigarettes while your in the joint.
:)
Lovely, they certainly want us in camps, don’t they?
(sigh)
RS
I denounce the behavior of Barack Obama, sending this country into Socialism/Communism.
Is it hate speech to say I detest the man, his whole party and everything they stand for?
I’m not sure I’m up for incitement to violence. I’m still coming to grips with being part of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.
Actually, aiming any violence at Obama would be extremely counterproductive. But we must be prepared to respond to the violence sure to come from his minions at Acorn with overwhelming force. Unfortunately, that will render us lawbreakers in most of the nation.
I totally agree with you on that, I just don't feel we should be providing them...pardon the pun...ammunition to do so. While I would die for our collective right to shout it from the rooftops I just believe that posts about shooting from the rooftops such as the ones they pointed out border on inciting violence and therefore should be discouraged. But like I said, this is your place and it is therefore your call.
For instance. I would like to invite Obama over to my place to play with my cat. Is that so wrng?
So, it’s ok to make a movie about hypthatically assassinating a president, but it’s not ok to talk about such vile things?
Pfffft.
Another black family living in government housing, what's new about that? < /sarc >
No one wants violence. The ball is in their court. It’s up to them to start the hostilities.
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