Posted on 03/09/2009 10:16:59 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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As you all know, Skyewriter recently wrote about the dangerous incitement to violence and direct threats at Free Republic. I also posted and directed you to Skywriter’s blog. Skyewriter and I were deluged with gun bloggers and other right wingnuts (and just nuts) who denied that this was a direct threat.
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One week after Skywriter posted and I directed those on my blog to the post, the Daily Kos posted on the same topic. They detailed a thread in which the wingnuts were ranting, no doubt with white froth at the mouth, about our duly elected President who enjoys exceptionally high approval ratings in this country and who most of America thinks is doing a great job. You can see the post here.
Daily Kos Noted that while wingnut talk like this is nothing terribly new, it is more of the same started by Sarah Palin at her divisive qand hateful rallies and similar to Alan Keyes call for action to “stop” President Obama.
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But it is not just a question of a Republican leadership and moral vacuum. Where is the media? CNN is more interested in showing homes paid for by the USPS than exposing this clear and growing danger to a man who was elected by a clear majority of this country and who the majority approves of to this day. The rest of the media is equally irresponsible in failing to cover this story and Fox is the grandaddy of them all as they are constantly whipping up the angry white men out there with their no fact based news. The garbage that they spew is delusional. Talk about hijacking democracy!
Today the Daily KOS posted a follow up because like Skye and me, they reported that thread at the Free republic to the FBI. Contrary to all of the nastiness that Skye was subjected to that what she quoted on her blog was really nothing, the FBI and Secret service do think it is something indeed. You can see that post here. Here are some excerpts from the FBI about the wingnuts:
"The number of threats to Obama as an individual, not the office, since election day is unprecedented. The Secret Service typically handles this stuff exclusively, but has had to look elsewhere for help."
"The FBI monitors and investigates all the white supremacist groups and websites and the guy I know in NY told me that Obama’s election has turned into the best recruiting tool they have ever used. Membership is up for the first time in I don’t know how long, and new hate websites are emerging every week. Some of the websites actually call for Obama’s assassination in their title!"
"The only solace I can offer is that, typically, these assholes are usually just that: a bunch of bored blowhards, terrified by the pace of a world that is passing them by, who have nothing better to do than complain, blame others for their shitty lives and spew their hatred and pitifully ignorant views online."
"This is not to say that Obama isn’t in constant peril…"
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I’m preaching and this has all been said before. I guess I’m just venting because the level of ignorance in this country actually still astounds me. We act horrified and shocked at the uneducated peasant masses blindly following crazy Muslim clerics when we have essentially the same thing going on here.
I could not agree more. It doesn’t matter whether the wingnuts are right wingnuts or left wingnuts. This is not acceptable and puts the people making the threats against President Obama in the same position as Osama bin laden - flat out murderers.
According to the post, the FBI (and I know the secret service as well) has requested our help in exposing the militia groups and the wingnuts threatening our democracy.
He also invites us to help “expose these morons whenever we can”. Distasteful as it is to have to venture into the belly of the beast, let’s keep an eye on the wingnuts and report any and every instance of hate speech, particularly threats of violence, whether against our President or anyone at all. The Secret Service and the FBI actually do investigate these people, as The Red Pen’s rec’d diary from yesterday attests. Reporting them works. So let’s keep the heat turned up. While we’ll probably never change their minds, we can at least stigmatize the hell out of them, make it less attractive to fence-sitters to be associated with them, and make their lives a little more miserable than they already so clearly are.
Here is the contact page for the US Secret Service.
Here is the contact page for the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
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These people are blind, ignorant racists for the most part who cannot stand the fact that an African American family is in the White House. As for the rest of them, from what I have read, they seem to be buying into the socialism/marxism/communism rants of people like Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter and all of the other “Republicans” who are spreading the same garbage in a desperate attempt to hang onto their dittohead base. As far as I am concerned, if they do not step up and denounce this behavior, should anything happen, they should be investigated and/or prosecuted for their part in whipping up a crown of wingnuts who don’t read and apparently can’t think too clearly either.
These people are blind, ignorant racists for the most part who cannot stand the fact that an African American family is in the White House. ...Sure, there are bigots out there. But of all the conservatives I talk to, the most common perjorative used for Obama is "Idiot". Or "Moron", "Fool", or "Lightweight". Sometimes the words are modified by "Liberal", occasionally "Dangerous". Frankly, there are so many legitimate complaints about him, why bother with racism?
As for the rest of them, from what I have read, they seem to be buying into the socialism/marxism/communism rants of people like Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter and all of the other “Republicans” who are spreading the same garbage in a desperate attempt to hang onto their dittohead base. ...Liberal projection is endlessly fascinating. Just because the jackass who wrote this statement hasn't had an independent thought in his entire life, means that I haven't either.
As far as I am concerned, if they do not step up and denounce this behavior ...in general that's exactly what happens. Conservatives get rid of those who behave badly, Liberals re-elect them.
...should anything happen, they should be investigated and/or prosecuted ...and if we don't say anything, I'm sure that there will be plenty in the MSM who will mention it. Who also will point out that we should have seen the invisible, what no one else saw, and acted upon it. OR, not acted upon it, depending on whatever hindsight is politically expedient.
for their part in whipping up a crown of wingnuts who don’t read ...MSM listeners?
and apparently can’t think too clearly either. Pot, meet kettle.
For the time being.
Just remember to make sure the rats all drown when they leave the sinking ship. In fact we need to have some rat terriers, hungry and ready to go.
I was referring to the improbably colloquial use of "this stuff" in the cite from a purported FBI memo.
What’s a wingnut?
I’m serious. I can’t get insulted unless I know what the word means.
Never mind. I’m not really that interested.
“These people are blind, ignorant racists for the most part who cannot stand the fact that an African American family is in the White House.”
The first thing we must do is stop those on the ‘GOP’ side from hurling the same baseless accusations. They’ve fallen into this every time they want to pass an amnesty or some other boneheaded policy. Are you surprised the left is using this ploy....it has worked so far.
As Jesse Lee Peterson said, ‘this election was about black racism and white guilt.’
Well, I have no WHITE GUILT. Jim, I don’t know how you grew up, but I know how I did. I remember being about 8 years old, we had gotten TV recently, and seeing the turmoil in the South and the ‘civil rights’ movement. My parents had told me about the civil war and the aftermath. I thought those problems were long solved. I was stunned to find in parts of the South, that blacks were still delegated to ‘the back of the bus’.
In my world, I’d never seen anything like discrimination or met bigots. The blacks, latinos, asians in my NW communities were my neighbors, friends, the people I grew up with. They were Americans.
Our entire lives, in school and our communities, we were taught tolerance, acceptance, equility. I can’t imagine anyone under the age of 65 not getting the same guidance.
I can’t imagine what my mother would have done to us if she’d ever heard a bigoted, racial comment come out of our mouths, much less discriminate against someone because of their skin color.
There will always be a few white trash bigots. Whites are human too. Weed them out, expose them. But labeling all of us who might object to the policies of anyone because of the color of their skin is pure insanity.
“Religious and racial persecution is moronic at all times, perhaps the most idiotic of human stupidities.” (Harry S. Truman)
I don’t think a foreign national is a President until proof is received, so the Kenyan needs to be impeached.
Like false carbon credits, he is a falsehood.
There is absolutely no doubt that the left is attempting to destroy our constitutional freedoms. Federalism is all but dead. Free market enterprise is on the way out. Capitalism is evil. Individual freedom and responsibility replaced with collectivism and government coercion. Socialism is the norm. Those who still believe in God are considered religious zealots, no better than Islamic terrorists and should be exterminated as such. Before Lady Liberty gasps her last breath, all will understand the wisdom of the Founding Fathers and the Second Amendment.
Shout it from the rooftops!
Keep your powder dry.
Thanks for the ping I guess ...............
and my knives are sharp...
If you’re drawing flak, it means you’re over the target.
Yep. 100%
And the left accuses US of being Nazis! HAHAHA what a laugh.
Almost as pathetic as them calling us racists! LMAO
Obama is half-white.
Where does that calculate?
For 8 years those on the left spoke of killing President Bush, Rove, Cheney, etc without a thought of the consequences.
As far as I know, they suffered none.
Yet we can’t blow off steam without a LEO banging on our door.
The double standard is breath-taking.
“A crown of wingnuts.”
is that like a gaggle of leftards?
Only give them a little power and they can’t wait
to abuse it.
They are the thugocracy they’ve been afraid of.
It could snow here tonight so I should be safe from the FBI for a couple of days.
DU did get a few Secret Service visits last year.
More censorship from the left. Along with plain old lies.
That “dissent is patriotic” stuff didn’t last very long.
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