Posted on 03/09/2009 10:16:59 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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As you all know, Skyewriter recently wrote about the dangerous incitement to violence and direct threats at Free Republic. I also posted and directed you to Skywriters blog. Skyewriter and I were deluged with gun bloggers and other right wingnuts (and just nuts) who denied that this was a direct threat.
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One week after Skywriter posted and I directed those on my blog to the post, the Daily Kos posted on the same topic. They detailed a thread in which the wingnuts were ranting, no doubt with white froth at the mouth, about our duly elected President who enjoys exceptionally high approval ratings in this country and who most of America thinks is doing a great job. You can see the post here.
Daily Kos Noted that while wingnut talk like this is nothing terribly new, it is more of the same started by Sarah Palin at her divisive qand hateful rallies and similar to Alan Keyes call for action to stop President Obama.
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But it is not just a question of a Republican leadership and moral vacuum. Where is the media? CNN is more interested in showing homes paid for by the USPS than exposing this clear and growing danger to a man who was elected by a clear majority of this country and who the majority approves of to this day. The rest of the media is equally irresponsible in failing to cover this story and Fox is the grandaddy of them all as they are constantly whipping up the angry white men out there with their no fact based news. The garbage that they spew is delusional. Talk about hijacking democracy!
Today the Daily KOS posted a follow up because like Skye and me, they reported that thread at the Free republic to the FBI. Contrary to all of the nastiness that Skye was subjected to that what she quoted on her blog was really nothing, the FBI and Secret service do think it is something indeed. You can see that post here. Here are some excerpts from the FBI about the wingnuts:
"The number of threats to Obama as an individual, not the office, since election day is unprecedented. The Secret Service typically handles this stuff exclusively, but has had to look elsewhere for help."
"The FBI monitors and investigates all the white supremacist groups and websites and the guy I know in NY told me that Obamas election has turned into the best recruiting tool they have ever used. Membership is up for the first time in I dont know how long, and new hate websites are emerging every week. Some of the websites actually call for Obamas assassination in their title!"
"The only solace I can offer is that, typically, these assholes are usually just that: a bunch of bored blowhards, terrified by the pace of a world that is passing them by, who have nothing better to do than complain, blame others for their shitty lives and spew their hatred and pitifully ignorant views online."
"This is not to say that Obama isnt in constant peril "
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Im preaching and this has all been said before. I guess Im just venting because the level of ignorance in this country actually still astounds me. We act horrified and shocked at the uneducated peasant masses blindly following crazy Muslim clerics when we have essentially the same thing going on here.
I could not agree more. It doesnt matter whether the wingnuts are right wingnuts or left wingnuts. This is not acceptable and puts the people making the threats against President Obama in the same position as Osama bin laden - flat out murderers.
According to the post, the FBI (and I know the secret service as well) has requested our help in exposing the militia groups and the wingnuts threatening our democracy.
He also invites us to help expose these morons whenever we can. Distasteful as it is to have to venture into the belly of the beast, lets keep an eye on the wingnuts and report any and every instance of hate speech, particularly threats of violence, whether against our President or anyone at all. The Secret Service and the FBI actually do investigate these people, as The Red Pens recd diary from yesterday attests. Reporting them works. So lets keep the heat turned up. While well probably never change their minds, we can at least stigmatize the hell out of them, make it less attractive to fence-sitters to be associated with them, and make their lives a little more miserable than they already so clearly are.
Here is the contact page for the US Secret Service.
Here is the contact page for the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
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These people are blind, ignorant racists for the most part who cannot stand the fact that an African American family is in the White House. As for the rest of them, from what I have read, they seem to be buying into the socialism/marxism/communism rants of people like Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter and all of the other Republicans who are spreading the same garbage in a desperate attempt to hang onto their dittohead base. As far as I am concerned, if they do not step up and denounce this behavior, should anything happen, they should be investigated and/or prosecuted for their part in whipping up a crown of wingnuts who dont read and apparently cant think too clearly either.
By the way, I whiled away many an hour drawing and designing guns in those days. In school. Was never bothered. Never reprimanded. Never suspended. I was spanked on occasion, though, for meatier offenses.
Your season must be well ahead of us; we have snow falling, and it is supposed to hit -1F tomorrow night.
That means I'll be in the basement lab, making this year's supply of DDT....
If that's the worst you get called,
you're not pissin' off enough of the target demographic
That thread today about the arrests at the "anti-violence" rally... we'll the kid who was killed attended the highschool where I shot on the rifle team in the 70's. We'd haul our rifles through the halls after school and nobody thought anything of it.
I never said it was illegal, I said it was unwise to give the left ammunition against us and even added that it was not my place to judge as this is Jim’s house. Good grief people...get a grip, I am not the enemy here.
I doubt they teach anything about US history now.
Liberal education.LOL.
Thomas Paine wrote stuff that KOS would find very upsetting if one inserted Obama's name in place of King George.
Just like a fish story, the moonbat account of your advisory post just keeps getting bigger and more fantastic every time they repeat it...
What about Michael Moore, Bill Maher, Olbermann, Begala, and other Democrats whose rants appeal to people who don't read and can't think?
I’m a right-wing nut. I never knew I was. O.K. I’m proudly wearing the label.
Like an individual slowly drowning in a sea of debt, while at the same time hitched to declining asset values, the last straw is when he/she loses their job.
The same is true for .gov; what we are seeing right now is the friends/family life-line routine. What comes next is tantamount to the individual's job loss that signals game over:
1. One of the big 4 banks goes down (which makes failure of the other 3 inevitable). There simply isn't enough money (ie Treasury sales) to backstop $1-2T FDIC claims + $1-2T corp bond loses borne by pension funds and sovereign wealth funds eg China; and/or
2. Treasury auction failure. Prices rise, yields spike and interest rates detonate the budget. If the Fed steps in to cover the shortage, dollar tanks and inflation ramps up.
Either of these events will provide a clear signal that the end game is afoot. Forget the 1A & 2A - as Orlov predicts, there isn't going to be any there, there. We'll just be in a natural state where one's survival will be based on their ability to add value in exchange/barter for other goods/services.
I've converted more than a fair share number of people by patiently showing them the numbers. They don't lie - the math doesn't care if you live or die, whether Citibank survives or crashes, or whether the US continues as a political entity. Here's a recent good post on what we are facing:
Once the M.I.B. investigate the Left’s accusations and find nothing will they be charged with filling a false report?
(((sigh)))
I get so tired of willful stupidity and childishness.
A quote from C.S. Lewis
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” CS Lewis
“Perhaps it’s the language or the political posturing...?”
Or, more likely, the language of DAILY KOS.....
“Perhaps it’s the language or the political posturing...?”
Or, more likely, the language of DAILY KOS.....
BINGO!
The irony of the comment they called on Eaker is was a paraphrase of a famous quote by DEMOCRAT congressman Woody Jenkins in 1976?
btttt
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