Posted on 03/09/2009 10:16:59 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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As you all know, Skyewriter recently wrote about the dangerous incitement to violence and direct threats at Free Republic. I also posted and directed you to Skywriter’s blog. Skyewriter and I were deluged with gun bloggers and other right wingnuts (and just nuts) who denied that this was a direct threat.
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One week after Skywriter posted and I directed those on my blog to the post, the Daily Kos posted on the same topic. They detailed a thread in which the wingnuts were ranting, no doubt with white froth at the mouth, about our duly elected President who enjoys exceptionally high approval ratings in this country and who most of America thinks is doing a great job. You can see the post here.
Daily Kos Noted that while wingnut talk like this is nothing terribly new, it is more of the same started by Sarah Palin at her divisive qand hateful rallies and similar to Alan Keyes call for action to “stop” President Obama.
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But it is not just a question of a Republican leadership and moral vacuum. Where is the media? CNN is more interested in showing homes paid for by the USPS than exposing this clear and growing danger to a man who was elected by a clear majority of this country and who the majority approves of to this day. The rest of the media is equally irresponsible in failing to cover this story and Fox is the grandaddy of them all as they are constantly whipping up the angry white men out there with their no fact based news. The garbage that they spew is delusional. Talk about hijacking democracy!
Today the Daily KOS posted a follow up because like Skye and me, they reported that thread at the Free republic to the FBI. Contrary to all of the nastiness that Skye was subjected to that what she quoted on her blog was really nothing, the FBI and Secret service do think it is something indeed. You can see that post here. Here are some excerpts from the FBI about the wingnuts:
"The number of threats to Obama as an individual, not the office, since election day is unprecedented. The Secret Service typically handles this stuff exclusively, but has had to look elsewhere for help."
"The FBI monitors and investigates all the white supremacist groups and websites and the guy I know in NY told me that Obama’s election has turned into the best recruiting tool they have ever used. Membership is up for the first time in I don’t know how long, and new hate websites are emerging every week. Some of the websites actually call for Obama’s assassination in their title!"
"The only solace I can offer is that, typically, these assholes are usually just that: a bunch of bored blowhards, terrified by the pace of a world that is passing them by, who have nothing better to do than complain, blame others for their shitty lives and spew their hatred and pitifully ignorant views online."
"This is not to say that Obama isn’t in constant peril…"
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I’m preaching and this has all been said before. I guess I’m just venting because the level of ignorance in this country actually still astounds me. We act horrified and shocked at the uneducated peasant masses blindly following crazy Muslim clerics when we have essentially the same thing going on here.
I could not agree more. It doesn’t matter whether the wingnuts are right wingnuts or left wingnuts. This is not acceptable and puts the people making the threats against President Obama in the same position as Osama bin laden - flat out murderers.
According to the post, the FBI (and I know the secret service as well) has requested our help in exposing the militia groups and the wingnuts threatening our democracy.
He also invites us to help “expose these morons whenever we can”. Distasteful as it is to have to venture into the belly of the beast, let’s keep an eye on the wingnuts and report any and every instance of hate speech, particularly threats of violence, whether against our President or anyone at all. The Secret Service and the FBI actually do investigate these people, as The Red Pen’s rec’d diary from yesterday attests. Reporting them works. So let’s keep the heat turned up. While we’ll probably never change their minds, we can at least stigmatize the hell out of them, make it less attractive to fence-sitters to be associated with them, and make their lives a little more miserable than they already so clearly are.
Here is the contact page for the US Secret Service.
Here is the contact page for the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
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These people are blind, ignorant racists for the most part who cannot stand the fact that an African American family is in the White House. As for the rest of them, from what I have read, they seem to be buying into the socialism/marxism/communism rants of people like Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter and all of the other “Republicans” who are spreading the same garbage in a desperate attempt to hang onto their dittohead base. As far as I am concerned, if they do not step up and denounce this behavior, should anything happen, they should be investigated and/or prosecuted for their part in whipping up a crown of wingnuts who don’t read and apparently can’t think too clearly either.
The absolute key to any conflict is possessing moral standing. There is a reason why it's called self-defense. Speak softly and carry and big stick.
“these assholes are usually just that: a bunch of bored blowhards, terrified by the pace of a world that is passing them by”
heh heh, I don’t care if the world passes me by, as a matter of fact, I hope it does. The fun will start when the feds start taxing weed, crack, colt 45, and thunderbird wine......
There was no threat to Our Leader, direct or implied in my post. I was pointing out that "politics" does include revolution. Clausewitz's most famous dictum is that war is “merely the continuation of politics (Politik) by other means" is well known.
If you read more into my post than that, you need to work on your reading comprehension. I understand most universities provide remedial classes in it for the graduates of our public schools.You shouldn't have any trouble finding a class.
As for the picture, it dates back to when The Bent One was polluting the White House. It is nothing new to threaten Our Leader. I guess that big, ugly black rifle scares people. Good.
A blessing would be a patriot in the Oval Office today instead of a classless thief.
Which indicates that he is beneficiary of much more than affirmative action. It can’t just be racism.
The only question is, how much havoc will be wreaked upon our great republic before his presidency goes down in flames? We survived Carter. Hopefully we will survive Obama. A broke and broken nation will soon tire of the wastelands of socialist utopia.
And they included the second amendment for a reason. And it wasn’t duck hunting.
Tyranny sucks.
You are right, of course. But we must all be very careful how we respond to each foray from the Left. They are nothing, if not deceptive. They have little or no honor--indeed the new President's immediate staff would probably laugh at the very idea of someone still talking about honor in 2009. If this is intended to be the final chapter for all that we believe in, they have thought out their strategy very carefully. (I mean the deliberate ones, not the useful idiots who are now in the majority in Congress.) We need to think out all responses with equal care. (I do not mean compromise with perfidy and usurpation.)
It should be remembered--and urged--that all Office Holders & all Military personnel have sworn to uphold the Constitution. That means the Bill of Rights as well.
I do you a favor and get reported to the FBI!
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Well, that's never going to happen again under the current system. The US has reached and passed the tipping point and is now finally mirroring California. When the dependent looter class gains control of the electoral process, there is never any going back.
I mean, look at it from their perspective - why in the world should/would they give up their ill gotten gains? They have the power of the state and force of law to confiscate and allocate your wealth. You are the serf; they are your liege lords. And make no mistake, they glory in making sure the producers feel the heel of the boot in their faces.
(What do you think the stimulus was all about? Pure, in your face re-distribution. So-called health care & energy [cap & trade] are no different. Everything -0- is proposing is nothing more than a mask for wealth confiscation & transfer.)
No, what we have is the inevitable end game to any republican form of government. So, we should consider ourselves very, very fortunate that the guy leading the assault on American civil liberties is pathetically unskilled. Lenin et al would be sorely dissappointed.
That's why, while the 1A (assembly) and 2A (RKBA) are important, it will ultimately be the preamble "We the People" that will be the deciding factor. Once a state begins to engage in taxation without representation (wealth confiscation & transfer), it loses all moral standing and legitimacy.
The leviathan lives on tax receipts and credit. Take away either and/or both, and it will severely wounded. In the end, there will simply be "no there, there" in which to oppress the citizenry. What member of a 3-letter agency will assault the American public if he isn't getting paid?
I know. We must be careful with our overzealous defense of God, Liberty and country and in the spirit of being nice and tolerant of liberals and other assorted socialists, leftists, Marxists, communists, fascists, dictators, tyrants and totalitarians worldwide, etc., we must be weary of careless speech. Loose lips sink ships.
Tax Revolt!! OFF with their heads!!!
Oops. Well, uh, you know what I mean.
She definitely is. GIGO, indeed.
To all libtards reading this and projecting YOUR hate onto FReepers...it’s never been about race. It IS about color. We HATE communists.
Now go back to your respective corners and resume sucking your respective thumbs.
I only used african american because that was what was posted and I’m not sure what he is.
I agree. This hyphenated stuff has to go.
Since there are no spaces for American on those EEO forms, I always refuse to answer or check the “other” box.
It’s not that he’s “brown”, it’s that he’s RED.
And it’s not even about the color of his skin, it’s more about the THINNESS of it.
“All these pukes need now is a department of extermination run by a Reinhard Heydrich clone.”
Isn’t that ‘extermination’ done by BATF?
Just wonderin’.
Sorry!
The idiots that did the reporting should be reported for wasting the time of the SS...that's Secret Service, to make that clear.
Tax Revolt!! OFF with their heads
I had something more in mind, like "Committees of Correspondence," to keep apprised of what is going down in other areas, before strategy jells. We need to be trying to reach some of those "Liberals," who are now also paying a price that they did not expect to pay, when they herded to the polls to vote for this new dispensation. It is easier to be a "Limousine Liberal," when the family resources that funded the silliness are not crashing with the rest of the economy.
In the 1930s, the response to Keynesian quackery was actually more muted than that possible today.
I didn't say there was. And I have no problem with comprehension, thank you, so cut the snide remarks. Posts that say we should vote from the rooftop, especially accompanied by a sniper picture, are clearly over the line and incite violence, period. When the picture was produced is a moot point. I don't even have a problem with Clausewitz's dictum, should the time arrive when we need to actually resort to physical war to save our country and I truly feel that time is getting closer. But to take that frame of reference (combined with the implications of the sniper picture), apply to our current situation and suggest that should be the solution at this juncture is just wrong. I believe it is you who needs a reality check.
These freaking libtards sniff too much propane. I see nothing that could or would ever be considered a threat to the President. The only threat involving nObama is the threat he poses to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
I fear more that leftists will sign up here and post threats for the sole purpose of taking FR down.
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