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Monsanto's Many Attempts to Destroy All Seeds but Their Own
FoodConsumer.org ^ | Feb 17, 2009

Posted on 03/07/2009 10:39:24 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: TigersEye

You called me a lot of names (a typical leftie technique by the way) and even when you were wrong, you come back and called me a zealot. And you are not a zealot? I stated I have no connections with Monsanto, nor any interest in them. I asked you a couple of questions, although I am not sure I will get a honest answer. Are you a supporter of organic food and/or anti-GM food?


141 posted on 03/07/2009 10:02:17 PM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Cost of seeding one acre of Monsanto corn = $31.00 (37,000 seeds)

Average yield of 150 bushels/acre = $450.00 at 3.00/Bushel

Cost is not the issue. Anti GM politics is.


142 posted on 03/07/2009 10:20:01 PM PST by texmexis best (uency)
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To: Aussiebabe
You called me a lot of names (a typical leftie technique by the way) ...

A lot of names? I said you were a zealot which was an observation not a pejorative. The substance of every single one of your posts is to associate every claim against Monsanto with Green Peace. Character assassination. So don't tell me about lefty techniques.

Are you a supporter of organic food and/or anti-GM food?

Nope. I rarely eat anything but meat. I never buy organic anything because I consider it a waste of money. I do like organic gardening though. I am also an herbalist and have been for about 19 years so I am familiar with Monsanto's legal and legislative efforts to control agriculture and seed distribution. Also their efforts to use government to spread herbicides and pesticides on government lands for profit.

I saw no place where you showed me to be wrong about anything. I did see where you completely ignored the information I passed your way.

143 posted on 03/07/2009 10:21:34 PM PST by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: texmexis best
Cost is not the issue. Anti GM politics is not the issue.

The issue is freedom.

The issue is being allowed to grow a crop that hasn't been contaminated by Monsanto's proprietary genes so you don't owe them a royalty, if that's the route you choose to go.

Their goal is to disallow that.

144 posted on 03/07/2009 10:57:27 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: TigersEye
Perhaps you should reread the messages to send to me. Some of that shouldn't be allowed on FreeRepublic and to top it off, you were not correct.

Isn't it just Greenpeace, it is the whole Green movement, including Friends (Fiends) of Earth that it trying to kill Mosanto and BASF and anyone else who tries to produce GM seeds.

I am just amazed how good Greenpeace's propaganda machine is and, if people like you, believe that this is grass roots movement by the farmers, then they can convince a lot of people.

The good news is that Greenpeace has been mostly failing. GM crops are now being used all over the world to dramatically increase food production, and by far, most farmers realize the benefits and how much safer (dramatic reduction of pesticides) the use of hybrid and GM seeds bring to their farms.

145 posted on 03/07/2009 11:03:05 PM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Sorry, it is the anti-GM movement. The real problem of cross contamination is almost nonexistent. If it wasn't for Greenpeace and the Greens’ propaganda, this wouldn't be a real issue.
146 posted on 03/07/2009 11:04:55 PM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: Calpernia

Ping to #33.


147 posted on 03/07/2009 11:14:22 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Your very first post when you posted the article from the anti-GM Dr. Mercola was: "I once worked for Monsanto, but I honestly don't know what to make of this." Now you post: Cost is not the issue. Anti GM politics is not the issue. The issue is freedom. The issue is being allowed to grow a crop that hasn't been contaminated by Monsanto's proprietary genes so you don't owe them a royalty, if that's the route you choose to go. Their goal is to disallow that. It would nice if people would be actually be honest and open in what their agendas are instead of playing games.
148 posted on 03/07/2009 11:16:20 PM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: Aussiebabe
Perhaps you should reread the messages to send to me. Some of that shouldn't be allowed on FreeRepublic and to top it off, ...

Take it up with the moderators.

149 posted on 03/07/2009 11:19:57 PM PST by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Aussiebabe; E. Pluribus Unum
It would nice if people would be actually be honest and open in what their agendas are instead of playing games.

Your unsubstantiated accusations don't add up to much. Except zealous bigotry.

150 posted on 03/07/2009 11:22:20 PM PST by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: autumnraine

get your heirloom seeds from rareseeds.com

Just got an order from them yesterday.


151 posted on 03/07/2009 11:39:37 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: hermgem

Faremrs are definitely thinking money. The last thing they want to do is to have to share their crop to a Genetic seed company because that seed company cross pollinated their crop with the neighbors crop that just didn’t happen to be that seed strain.
So the seed company claims the farmer is stealing their patent that they own the rights to exclusively.
And they use that as an excuse to steal crops that aren’t theirs from people who don’t buy their seed.

There should be no rights to cross pollination because it is a natural process. The seed companies claim otherwise.
In Missouri, Budweiser sued some farmers because their hops might have been cross pollinated by other varieties.


152 posted on 03/07/2009 11:46:24 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: autumnraine

Just a thought here. Maybe the genetically altered crops are what is killing the honey bees?

One has to believe there are consequences out there somewhere.


153 posted on 03/07/2009 11:50:27 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My Grandfather worked as a chemist there 30+ years and insists they were going downhill when he left and are not the same company.


154 posted on 03/08/2009 12:14:47 AM PST by Flying Circus
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To: TigersEye
Look if you support Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth, that is your right. But if I oppose them, I don't think I am the zealous bigot. I think it is you that have the zealous bigotry. There are no bigger zealous bigotry groups than these fascists green movements who try to impose their religious beliefs on others. I notice that you continue to use the left tactics of calling people names.

You are being used (unless you really are a Greenpeace lover). If anyone does any honest research on both how Greenpeace uses a small number of farmers (and organic crop growers) in their propaganda efforts and into the science of just how little chance there is of crop contamination and all the controls that farmers must put into place. Instead, you post links to leftists and anti-GM sites and believe people who have been convicted of stealing. I just don't understand how real conservatives can fall into this trap.

155 posted on 03/08/2009 12:48:53 AM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: o_zarkman44

There is no doubt. When you go messing with Mother Nature, you are messing with a delicate thread.

I want to know where all the don’t kill the polar bear crowds are?


156 posted on 03/08/2009 5:10:06 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The same freaks that regularly protest the WTO/IMF have been on this story for years....and usually getting lambasted for it.


157 posted on 03/08/2009 5:21:53 AM PDT by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done a few things in my life I'm not proud of, and the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
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To: Aussiebabe
It would nice if people would be actually be honest and open in what their agendas are instead of playing games.

It's too bad your contract with Monsanto doesn't allow that.

158 posted on 03/08/2009 8:48:58 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: Aussiebabe
Sorry, it is the anti-GM movement. The real problem of cross contamination is almost nonexistent.

So Monsanto doesn't hire private detective to trespass on farms and test crops for their "proprietary" gene?

159 posted on 03/08/2009 8:51:07 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: Aussiebabe; TigersEye
The Nelson's were sued by Monsanto in 1999 for stealing patented seeds. Now, if you believe the intellectual property on hybrid seeds shouldn't be protected, then they have a point. But, if hybrid seeds can't be protected, why would companies ever develop them, if they can't make a profit on them?

If the Nelson's stole patented seeds, then they didn't need to be sued, they should have been just charged with theft. All that they could accomplish would to be to get that one year's worth of crop from them because they couldn't save seed to grow from HYBRIDS.

And what, exactly, is the point of stealing HYBRIDIZED seeds that are sterile and can only produce one years crop, aside from getting that crop? Since hybrid seeds are sterile, there's no benefit to *stealing* the technology because nobody can get it to reproduce. It's a waste of time and money and not worth the risk.

160 posted on 03/08/2009 10:44:54 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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