Posted on 03/05/2009 5:24:15 AM PST by RobinMasters
Perhaps you’ve seen the video of the King County, Wash., sheriff’s deputy dishing out a bit of the rough stuff on a 15-year-old girl. At 3:45 a.m. last November 29, the girl was arrested while riding as a passenger in her parents’ car, which had been reported stolen to police. The video shows Deputy Paul Schene, 31, and a second deputy escorting the girl into a holding cell. The girl, apparently at Schene’s request, takes off one of her shoes and, apparently not at Schene’s request, kicks it at him, striking him in the shin with it.
It seems fair to say that at that point Deputy Schene … lost it. The video shows him charging into the cell and striking the girl, then shoving her against the back wall before throwing her to the floor. After handcuffing her, he picks her up and takes her out of the cell while holding her by the hair. A detective who later reviewed the video reported the incident, and Schene was charged in King County District Court with misdemeanor assault. He has pleaded not guilty.
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One either is a professional or is not one. I understand completely the impulse but he knew what he was doing and he knew there was a camera running and he knew she was fifteen. I hope he can avoid jail time but I think his career is over.
That video is RAW stuff. The cop will do jail time, and deservedly so.
I’m glade he knows how to act like an adult. Had those emotions under control didn’t he. This guy needs to be fired and put in a cell with someone bigger than him so he can get a little of what he dished out. Tough guy with a gun won’t be so tough in jail. I got a better idea send him to Afganistan with a marine expidition group, see how much of a tough guy he will be then.
I hope they throw the book at him!
“charged in King County District Court with misdemeanor assault” ????
How about felony assualt.
Beating up on a 15 year old girl, eh? What a punk. Probably watched Dirty Harry too many times. He really shower her, eh?
Then they, of course, charge him with a misdemeanor when they would charge a felony if the girl’s brother or Dad did the exact same thing. Typical.
Bad cop. Needs to go.
"Schene had previously been in the news in 2006 after he fatally shot Pedro Jo, a mentally ill man, during a struggle after a traffic stop on Interstate 5. It was the second officer-involved shooting of his career...An inquest jury ruled the shooting was justified....
"...Shortly after the shooting while on administrative leave, Schene was stopped for driving under the influence...He had been drinking and taking prescription medication, according to court records. He received a deferred sentence and was placed on probation, records show.
WA ping
Excellent, Joe. These things never happen in a vacuum. They should have fired this officer a while ago.
Sorry, doesn't meet the criteria.
If he had used a weapon it would have been a felony. Since he didn't use a weapon and didn't inflict any serious injury, it's misdemeanor.
I have personally been threatened, almost assaulted, by a police officer. It was unprovoked and he was totally out of line. I am convinced that he only reason he didn't totally lose it was because MY conduct diffused the situation. It was an intense situation and he probably was having a bad day, but had I provoked him in the slightest way (like kicking a shoe at him), I would have accepted that I probably deserved what ever he decided to dish out.
The officer was attacked by a snotty nosed little brat and was subdued. She instigated it and suffered the results of her actions.
There was no excessive force in this video. The officer was assaulted and used reasonable force (given the adrenaline in the situation) to restrain the girl from further attacks. Little doubt in my mind that had she gotten away with her initial assault, she would have escalated it - perhaps not on this evening, but in the next time she is taken in, and then probably the next time she is apprehended.
We, as a society, in our quest for gentleness and understanding have become the most violent and most incarcerated society that our world has ever seen. Those who allow the kinds of behaviors this girl exhibited to go gently and understandingly unpunished are enablers.
Yes, the girl probably got a few bruises and maybe even a bloody nose. Unfortunately, it will probably not be a teaching moment. Probably passed is the opportunity for her to learn that it was HER instigating that caused him to respond.
Being a police officer or a soldier is packed full of emotion, adrenaline, and responsibility - to an extent that those of us who have never worn a badge or a dog tag can conceive. The officer deserves discipline (as a consequence of his actions), but criminal? Hardly. And to propose so only invites anarchy. (Just ask New York citizens if they care to return to the days when New York's finest had their hands tied. The ‘70’s there were about as close to anarchy as this country has seen - present day mexican border states obviously the exception. But wait, we've hamstrung our border officers there too. Hmmmmm...
Fixed it for you
Yep....a cop who has been arrested for driving while taking prescriptions and alcohol keeps his job and gets probation, while (on another thread) a Marine who gets counseling for PTSD can’t get a handgun permit in Omaha.
Stupid brat steals her parents car, then assaults a police officer?? Sorry, but a little hair pulling and being roughly handcuffed seems like she got off easy in my book.
Our officers put their lives on the line and sacrifice so much and what do we do? We pat them on the back and say, “Now rush right out there and handle the verbal abuse, or insults and all the other crap.”
The compassion we have for criminals, and not for our officers of the law has an unintended result. The evidence is astoundingly overwhelming. Where do we have the most problems with crime? In those places where the officers are most in fear of what will happen if they meet force with force. We've confused compassion with enabling and we are not dealing with the consequences as a country.
And you didn't intend to do so, but you disproved your point admirably. You should NOT have CPS come knocking... You should NOT go to jail, lose your wages, lose your job, get sued... And neither should the “cop”.
(And for the record, I must prefer the term “officer of the law” rather than the term “cop” (or “copper” as the term evolved) which has in its roots a subtle disdain for the profession. I have no such disdain, only respect for the admirable job that these guys do day in and day out.
He deserves to go to jail period...He is a disgrace to the law enforcement profession. Also, if any average citizen was caught driving under the influence...we would have already been prosecuted...special rules for bad cops...get rid of him and jail him for assault.
Yep, a police officer must never use force. They must stand there and take every “verbal abuse, or insults and all the other crap”. Keep drawing the line further and further against the police and what will you get? Detroit, Washington DC, Philadelphia, New Orleans.
Yep, let the criminals be in charge. Let them be able to push the envelop so that you and all the liberal judges and sit in your ivory tower chairs, and point fingers from the safety of your little suburban enclaves. These men put their lives on the line and deserve better than you letting this brat kick her shoe at him. Next time she spits on him. The time after that? Where do you draw the line from your safe little cubicle or kitchen table where you've never had to deal with the ilk that our officers do every day.
I believe in law and order. The law? Supreme. The order? Well, welcome to the real world. Sometimes keeping order requires a few bruises and bloody noses. When you've been in the position of being spit on and called every name in the book (and some that aren't allowed to be in the book), then please voice your opinion.
Most officers will agree that he should be disciplined. My contention is that he should be treated as a criminal - a felonious criminal at that. And that he should do jail time. Come on, half the population would have lost their right to vote if we were all criminals who had every tackled someone, pushed someone down, or been in a fist fight.
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