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First Solar reaches "dollar per watt milestone"
first solar ^ | 2/27/09 | first solar

Posted on 03/03/2009 3:18:16 PM PST by Flavius

Thin-film solar cell manufacturer First Solar yesterday announced it has broken the $1 (70p) per watt cost barrier that is widely accepted as the point at which solar panels become cost competitive with fossil fuels.

The company said that during the fourth quarter of last year, the manufacturing cost for its solar modules stood at 98 cents per watt, taking it below the $1 per watt mark for the first time.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessgreen.com ...


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ok who's got the data
1 posted on 03/03/2009 3:18:17 PM PST by Flavius
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To: Flavius

So, $60.00 /light bulb? Great.


2 posted on 03/03/2009 3:20:10 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: Flavius

I think a more important number would be watts generated/square foot. How much panel is needed to light that bulb??


3 posted on 03/03/2009 3:26:37 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts.....)
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To: Flavius

Okaaaay! So the solar industry will no longer need credits from the taxpayer. Right?


4 posted on 03/03/2009 3:28:09 PM PST by Jacquerie (More Central Planning is not the solution to the failure of Central Planning.)
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To: Flavius

also:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2193837/posts


5 posted on 03/03/2009 3:28:50 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: neodad
So, $60.00 /light bulb? Great.

No that's not what it means.

6 posted on 03/03/2009 3:29:24 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Flavius
Is that with or without goobermint subsidies? The market wasn't very impressd when this came out although FSLR went up about 6% today.
7 posted on 03/03/2009 3:29:40 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: neodad

It’s a milestone. And it is a good breakthrough....
Sure, it’s not the 85+% (probably about 95-98) that would make it a feasible system... but it’s a step in getting the cost down. (Those are the two main costs of PV-energy, the manufacture, and the inefficiency of light to electricity we currently have.)

Now, solar to heat (like the solar water-heater/preheater systems), THAT is a good-efficiency system for places like TX, NM, and AZ.)


8 posted on 03/03/2009 3:29:41 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Flavius
Please remember that solar panels ONLY work near capacity 4 hours a day, 10am to 2pm, assuming the sun is shining!
9 posted on 03/03/2009 3:29:50 PM PST by WellyP (obama must go!)
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To: Flavius

How are they doing on that “watts on a cloudy day” milestone?


10 posted on 03/03/2009 3:30:15 PM PST by Steely Tom (RKBA: last line of defense against vote fraud)
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To: Flavius

how about....more nuclear plants?


11 posted on 03/03/2009 3:32:30 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: xcamel

Geothermal out west is the real ticket. The ground out west is mostly hot due to a huge caldera near Yellowstone. If it ever blows again we are mega screwed.

Run pipes under ground, run water through them, get steam, steam turn turbine like a nuke plant. Supposedly they can also use a gas instead of watere that works better.


12 posted on 03/03/2009 3:33:43 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: jiggyboy

Why not? Wouldn’t you need $60 worth of panel to generate the 60 watts necessary to light that bulb? Or are these magic watts? /Vinny


13 posted on 03/03/2009 3:35:57 PM PST by NonValueAdded (May God save America from its government; this is no time for Obamateurs)
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To: WellyP

Newer photovoltaic cells collect energy from the moon. They’re that sensitive.


14 posted on 03/03/2009 3:36:29 PM PST by ChocChipCookie ("Let his days be few, and let another take his office." Psalm 109:8)
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To: Flavius

Isn’t this the company Al Gore has bet the farm on as an investor?


15 posted on 03/03/2009 3:43:00 PM PST by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: Jacquerie

Exactly, If they have been able to reduce cost to the point where the technology is competitive, without government subsidies then they should be aplauded. Conservatives have nothing against the pursuit of alternative energy sources, we simply believe in free market approaches for doing so.


16 posted on 03/03/2009 3:44:44 PM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: NonValueAdded

Yes that’s right but you’re forgetting that that $60 would light that bulb for four hours a day (per an earlier post) almost every day for its 30-year lifetime.

That’s 60W x 4 hours/day x 365 days/year x 30 years x 1 KW per 1000 Watt-hours = 2628 kWH provided for $60 = 2.3 cents per kWH.

Go ahead and double that price for the other hardware in the system, and double it again for installation, and you’re at 9.2c/kWH — very comparable to 10c/kWH out of the wall.

There are a dozen variables that jiggle that up or down of course but you can see that that’s a very good cost indeed.


17 posted on 03/03/2009 3:47:47 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Flavius

uh huh. you won’t get the same results in Alaska or Buffalo that you get in FRresno or Tempe. Saying that this is the cost per is not going to work, different places will have different amounts of sun.

how much $ per watt if its cloudy?


18 posted on 03/03/2009 3:51:35 PM PST by GeronL (Will bankrupting America lead to socialism?)
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To: jiggyboy

I think 30 years is very optimistic.


19 posted on 03/03/2009 4:08:40 PM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: Flavius

OK, it’s not perfect yet; not by a long shot. I still support this research, though. And most all of the other energy research areas: oil extraction improvement, wind, geothermal, fast breeder reactors, oil sand and shale, coal gassification, etc.

I support this research not because it brings us closer to the day when we can all hold hands and dance around in the flowers singing Kumbaya. I support this research so that perhaps one day we need not be dependent on our enemies for our energy needs. So that maybe the next time some muslims fly planes into our buildings, we can nuke their home countries, and the home countries of their supporters, without cutting our own throats. I live for that day.


20 posted on 03/03/2009 4:13:03 PM PST by NewMexLurker
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