Activist Groups Urge Obama to Reject Boy Scout Honor

FoxNews.com ^ | Tuesday, March 03, 2009 | Stephen Clark

[Joiseydude]

President Obama says he wants to be president of all the people. But some groups are urging him to make an exception for the Boy Scouts of America.

Critics of the Scouts who are outraged that the group is allowed to exclude gays and atheists while receiving federal funding are urging Obama to reject the group's honorary presidency, a designation bestowed on every U.S. president since William Howard Taft in 1910.

[fwdude]

The BSA is not what it used to be....

No kidding. I just learn recently, to my horror, that the Philadelphia Council that was being blackmailed into going "gay" or lose the use of the public building (for which a perpetual lease was in effect) caved on the issue. My heart sank. Maybe this is just the isolated action of an individual council beaten down until it didn't know how to fight anymore - but Scouting should be tougher than this.

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... in 2001 the federal government ordered public schools to keep their doors open to the Scouts. And Congress, responding to the threat of campus lockouts, voted to cut federal funding to any school that banned the Scouts or any similar group from "open forum" access.

That was then; this is now. The exponential matastasization of a coarsening, Godless society and government corruption will soon turn this reasonable mindset around.

[RonF]

Critics of the Scouts who are outraged that the group is allowed to exclude gays and atheists while receiving federal funding

What federal funding would that be? I'm not aware that the BSA gets federal funding.

[Jotmo]

They should be called . . . ?

Rump Rangers.

[Saundra Duffy]

Just saw a ticker a while ago on FOX which said the Pres did indeed refuse to accept the title of honorary pres of the Boy Scouts of America because of the BSA excludes atheists and homosexuals. The end is near.

[April Lexington]

First Dictator of the United States. Pull your head out and understand that this fascist is NOT a good roll model for boys. I remember as a scout getting my *ss kicked by a leader for reading a short history of the Third Reich at a jamboree. They felt that book would not be a good influence on a scout. Stop the political correctness cr*p and protect those boys before they grow us as slaves in an Obama regime. There is such a thing as a coup de tat.

[50mm]

...but if they're excluding people based on whatever arbitrary criteria...

There is nothing arbitrary about excluding homosexuals from the Scouts. The Boy Scouts are protecting children, as they should.

[Turret Gunner A20]

You have a problem with the Mormons?

[verga]

In honor of his economic policies, they should confer the title “ Big Chief-Hole-in-the-PocketHead between his giant ears” to him

there fixed it.

[verga]

If you need information about the Morman involvment with Scouting google has plenty of information.

Google also has plenty of information about space aliens taking people for rides in their little green ships.

Beandogs assesment is correct.

[bankcritic]

I dont have any particular problem with the Mormon’s, but I dont want the government spending tax dollars funding a group that’s affiliated with a religious group, I think if some group is recieving federal money it should allow everyone to participate.

[bankcritic]

Protecting them from what exactly? It can’t be from sexual predators because if someone was a pedophile do you really think they’d say they were gay when they joined?

[Turret Gunner A20]

I dont have any particular problem with the Mormon’s, but I dont want the government spending tax dollars funding a group that's affiliated with a religious group, I think if some group is receiving federal money it should allow everyone to participate.

Then can I assume that you are for closing down all hispitals, battered women's and children's shelters, and all other charitable institutions run by religious groups that receive any government funds -- directly or indirectly??

Also, can I assume that you erroneously believe that complete "separation of church and state" is required by the Constitution. Right?

[bankcritic]

Then can I assume that you are for closing down all hospitals, battered women's and children's shelters, and all other charitable institutions run by religious groups that receive any government funds -- directly or indirectly??

I dont really see how these organizations get money indirectly from the government, unless you mean at the state level. The Federal government should not be involved in this type of activity, the states are better able to determine their needs wrt their people and if the state governments want to provide money for shelters and charities then I'll deal with it at the state level, I'm talking federal level here.

Since you asked the question I'll answer it, yes, if the organization in question is getting Federal dollars to stay in operation then I would require that it not have religious connections (I wonder if a Mosque were to open up a soup kitchen and recieve Federal money to operate would you still have the same belief that the Government should be supporting such activities?)

[SZonian]

Thanks SandRat, just more of the same. Those people are like chiggers. Just won’t go away.

Regards,
SZ

[50mm]

Protecting them from what exactly? It can’t be from sexual predators because if someone was a pedophile do you really think they’d say they were gay when they joined?

Go to this link:

Homosexuals

Or here are the relevant points:

• Homosexual Alfred Kinsey, the preeminent sexual researcher in the history of sexual research, found in 1948 that 37 percent of all male homosexuals admitted to having sex with children under 17 years old.4

• A very recent (2000) study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that "The best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2-4% of men attracted to adults prefer men. In contrast, around 25-40% of men attracted to children prefer boys. Thus, the rate of homosexual attraction is 620 times higher among pedophiles."5
• Another 2000 study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that". . . all but 9 of the 48 homosexual men preferred the youngest two male age categories" for sexual activity;' These age categories were fifteen and twenty years old.6
• Yet another recent study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that "Pedophilia appears to have a greater than chance association with two other statistically infrequent phenomena. The first of these is homosexuality . . . Recent surveys estimate the prevalence of homosexuality, among men attracted to adults, in the neighborhood of 2%. In contrast, the prevalence of homosexuality among pedophiles may be as high as 30-40%."7
• A 1989 study in the Journal of Sex Research noted that " . . . the proportion of sex offenders against male children among homosexual men is substantially larger than the proportion of sex offenders against female children among heterosexual men . . . the development of pedophilia is more closely linked with homosexuality than with heterosexuality."8
• A 1988 study of 229 convicted child molesters published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that 86% of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual.9
• In a 1984 Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy article, sex researchers found that "The proportional prevalence of [male] offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36 percent."10
• Homosexual activists Karla Jay and I Allen Young revealed in their 1979 Gay Report that 73% of all homosexuals I have acted as "chicken hawks" - that is, they have preyed on adolescent or younger boys. 11
• In a 1992 study published in the Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy, sex researchers K. Freud and R. I. Watson found that homosexual males are three times more likely than straight men to engage in pedophilia, and that the average pedophile victimizes between 20 and 150 boys before being arrested.12
• A study by sex researchers Alan Bell and Martin Weinberg found that 25% of white homosexual men have had sex with boys sixteen years and younger. 13

[DBeers]

I agree with previous posters. You are an idiot...

Go away...

[bankcritic]

Thats some fairly substantial research calling what I previously thought about homosexuals into doubt. You’ve given me some things to think about, as opposed to the other posters merely namecalling, which I ignore. I thank you for backing up your point with actual research.

[50mm]

Glad to be of service.

The statistics are mind-boggling.