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Prosperity is the key, not Economic Equality
Patriot Room ^ | 3-3-09 | Publius

Posted on 03/03/2009 11:52:47 AM PST by Scott Martin

E.J. Dionne asked a question in his column yesterday that would seem to allow for a quick and easy answer, especially to those who don't bother to think about what he's really asking: Do We Want a More Equal Society?

The central issue in American politics now is whether the country should reverse a three-decade long trend of rising inequality in incomes and wealth.

Dionne begins this exercise by establishing as fact something that may be true to numbers, but is certainly not true to truth. First, Dionne completely ignores the fact that every group has increased its time adjusted real income over the past three decades:

Are the super-achievers in America doing much better now than they were in the past? Sure. How is this a bad thing? As noted in today's Daily Reagan, money should eventually tend to find its way into industrious hands, not idle and imbecilic ones. If the lowest quintile (bottom 20 percent) has a higher income in real dollars than in the past, what difference does it make if somebody else has done even better?

Dionne would also have you believe that people don't move in and out of these groups. They do, often many times over a lifespan. The lower two quintiles are overwhelmingly filled with young people who have just finished school and are starting out at the bottom...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: economics; equality; prosperity; taxes

1 posted on 03/03/2009 11:52:47 AM PST by Scott Martin
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To: Scott Martin

From the liberal/socialist playbook- punish achievement, reward failure. With them it’s not the equality of opportunity, it’s equality of outcome.


2 posted on 03/03/2009 11:54:13 AM PST by petercooper (1/20/13 - Change I can believe in.)
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To: Scott Martin

Sorry, the folks in charge now believe the exact opposite.

We believe in the rule of law, enforcing those rules, and accepting the obvious that the results will differ for differing efforts and talents.

The left, who is now in charge, believes in tinkering with things after the fact to achieve “social justice”.


3 posted on 03/03/2009 11:56:35 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Scott Martin
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Means we're created with equal rights, not equal ability.

4 posted on 03/03/2009 11:59:37 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Scott Martin

Let’s hope that this motivates voters to throw out the ‘rats in the 2010 House and Senate elections!


5 posted on 03/03/2009 12:00:34 PM PST by MtnClimber (... _ _ _ ...)
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To: Scott Martin

“Do We Want a More Equal Society?”

If “equal” means that deadbeat bastards put down the Pringles, get off the couch, get jobs, and pay taxes...I am all for a “more equal society.” It won’t happen, so I don’t feel sorry for the dregs of our society.


6 posted on 03/03/2009 12:02:06 PM PST by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: Scott Martin

When everyone is poor and dependent upon government handouts, THEN we will have “economic equality”. When all the producers and generators of wealth in this country are either in prison or in hiding, THEN we will have “economic justice”. When the “have nots” have stolen every possible thing of value in this country from the “haves” through their agents in Congress and the White House THEN we will have a “economic revolution”..........


7 posted on 03/03/2009 12:02:25 PM PST by Red Badger (The Zero has more Chicago Bull than Michael Jordan...................)
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To: Jim Robinson

“...the pursuit of Happiness”

To me, that’s the operative phrase involved.

If you’re a deadbeat bastard sitting on the couch, you are not pursuing happiness. You are waiting for it to come to you. It is not my responsible for me to deliver it.


8 posted on 03/03/2009 12:03:49 PM PST by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: Scott Martin

E.J. Dionne cares nothing about the poor, his goal is to see the advancement of socialism. He knows the hard facts. He knows that success is largely an individual achievement but he seeks to see the establishment of socialism in the U.S.


9 posted on 03/03/2009 12:05:20 PM PST by Professor_Leonide (I said to the young man who showed me a photo, "Who can ever be sure what is behind a mask?")
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To: Tex Pete
If you’re a deadbeat bastard sitting on the couch, you are not pursuing happiness. You are waiting for it to come to you. It is not my responsible for me to deliver it.

BUT, what are you or me or anyone going to do about it? This is Obama's plan, WE knew it, WE tried to educate friends, co-workers, neighbors, anyone that would listen, but it didn't work!

10 posted on 03/03/2009 12:08:26 PM PST by blondee123 (Barack O'Lenin, King of United Socialist America!)
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To: Scott Martin

What products MADE IN AMERICA have you bought lately? [Intellectual property like rap music excepted, of course.]


11 posted on 03/03/2009 12:08:45 PM PST by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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I agree with E.J. I should contact him so we can compare net worth and equalize the unfair advantage that I'm sure he has over me. Did E.J. ever date Barney, or are they sisters? They both have that sufferin’ succotash Sylvester speech pattern.
12 posted on 03/03/2009 12:40:31 PM PST by throwback
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Below this article on Free Republic is another one that talks about how an equal society built on job security and equality has panned out for the Japanese here.
13 posted on 03/03/2009 12:46:51 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Scott Martin
The lower two quintiles are overwhelmingly filled with young people who have just finished school and are starting out at the bottom
I credit Thomas Sowell with the insight of the great significance of the correlation between income quintile and age. It is possible to imagine a society in which the top quintile income was orders of magnitude higher than the bottom quintile, yet in which everyone starts out at the bottom and predictably moves to the top in lockstep with everyone else - IOW, of perfect equality over a lifetime.

So the correlation between income quintile and age simply can't be ignored. The fact that the bottom quintile - even the bottom two quintiles - are dominated by young people just starting out blows arguments based on the "unfair disparity among the quintiles" right out of the water.


14 posted on 03/03/2009 1:45:47 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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