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Rachel Maddow, reluctant sex symbol
Salon ^ | Tuesday, Feb. 24, 2009 | Judy Berman

Posted on 03/01/2009 3:46:20 PM PST by presidio9

Why do we -- men and women, gay and straight -- find Rachel Maddow sexy? Daphne Merkin's "Butch Fatale" about the newly minted MSNBC icon, hidden among the overpriced handbag porn and fluffy profiles of last weekend's New York Times T style magazine, is more complicated than it appears.

As Merkin writes, it isn't often that mainstream culture celebrates the attractiveness of butch lesbians. Sure, we admire femmes like Portia de Rossi and Lindsay Lohan. But for the most part, lesbians who wear suits, cut their hair short or otherwise don't conform to traditional standards of beauty -- the Ellen DeGenereses and Rosie O'Donnells of the world -- have to remain culturally neutered in order to participate in public life. Though we find classic representations of gay male beauty in the films of Luchino Visconti and the writings of Oscar Wilde and Thomas Mann, says Merkin, "It's much harder to envision a lesbian icon without coming up against Fran Lebowitz, looking surly and bored."

The problem with lesbian archetypes, according to Merkin, is that "both categories -- butch and femme -- borrow from gender-influenced dichotomies of beauty." And this is where Rachel Maddow, supposedly, is a revelation. "She may not be one of Hefner's Girls Next Door, exactly, but she is no bare-faced, unstylish dyke either, however she chooses to characterize herself," says Merkin, going on to coo over the way Maddow combines a light dusting of makeup with "Poindexter glasses, Jil Sander pantsuits and Converse sneakers" and concludes that "she's willing to prettify her image sufficiently to endear her to male viewers."

Here's where I disagree with Merkin: I don't think Maddow's TV appearance is particularly calculated to attract male viewers. The makeover doesn't seem like a ploy to sex up Maddow; rather, it's a concession to appearing on television, where everyone has to wear makeup and dress like a professional. According to a New York magazine profile, Maddow's partner, Susan Mikula, is responsible for her wearing makeup: "Without it, 'she looked like a dead person,'" Mikula said. And as for the designer suits, it's not as if MSNBC was going to let Maddow -- or Keith Olbermann or Chris Matthews, for that matter -- go on the air in a ratty button-down and carpenter jeans. Meanwhile, Maddow makes no effort to hide her casual, butch off-screen appearance, either. In this pre-New Year's video, also for New York magazine, a bare-faced, hoodie-clad Maddow gives a lesson in mixology.

It's true that while the butch-femme dichotomy has already broken down among many younger lesbians -- I'm hard-pressed to categorize any of my mid-20s lesbian friends as either -- Maddow is still a butch in my book (and her own). And besides, I think Merkin misses something major about what makes Maddow sexy: the nerdiness! From the "Poindexter glasses" to the Oxford Ph.D. to her perfectly crafted sarcasm, Maddow is as geek-chic as she is lesbian-chic.

Unlike Merkin, I believe Maddow when she says "she has no interest in the issue of physical appearance -- her own or anyone else's." And as much as I would love her to herald a new age of lesbian beauty, it seems to me that viewers respond more to Maddow's non-physical qualities -- intelligence, charm and, above all, authenticity -- than to her looks. But I'm interested to hear Broadsheet readers' take, too. What do you think makes Rachel Maddow sexy?


TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: androgeny; culturewar; downourthroats; homosexualagenda; inourfaces; itspat; liberalnonsense; liberalturnons; megabarfalert; merkin; msnbc; pravdamedia; rachelmaddow; thatsamanbaby
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To: presidio9

I do not think she can help her looks or her orientation. So I won’t rip her for those things. And as for how “brave” she was for staying “out” during her interview process for the Oxford scholarship, is she kidding?? That’s what got her in! Everyone would be scared to be called a homophobe if they turned her down!

Don’t kid yourself, that is how she got her job today, too! She is attractively male. Admit it, people, if this were your friend’s son, you’d think he was perfectly decent looking. (Looks like a nice Jewish boy to me!) She is the best of probably all the bulldykes MSNBC could have hired, and surely they saved a timeslot for one. The tough lesbian mocking all things right wing works out better for a news channel than a flaming effeminate gay commentator (picture Paul Lynde dissing George Bush... See, it just doesn’t have the same effect.).

And how she keeps her job, and why liberals are “in love” with her, is because she is so sarcastic and mocking, it must be fun to “hate along with her” and be secretly glad she’s not laughing at YOU. To me she sounds painfully insecure. I’ve only seen her a couple times and have absolutely no desire to see her again.


121 posted on 03/01/2009 5:08:44 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: presidio9

It better look out for little Dutch boy’s and their fingers.


122 posted on 03/01/2009 5:09:19 PM PST by BigCinBigD ('When a man believes that any stick will do, he at once picks up a boomerang,')
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To: presidio9
Do butch lesbians take it as an insult when someone mistakes them for a man? I suspect they wouldn't, because isn't that the look they're going for anyway? I'm serious with this question.

Two words.. penis envy...

123 posted on 03/01/2009 5:13:22 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (To hell with the RINO party!)
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To: presidio9

marker for pics!


124 posted on 03/01/2009 5:13:41 PM PST by BonRad (As Rome goes so goes the world)
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To: presidio9

at the risk of being flamed by ya’ll, i happen to think that confidence and being just exactly who you are and what you are is attractive. i have some gay friends who just are what they are and they are confident people who do not look for approval. they just live their lives, have their own circle of friends who can accept (if not approve of) their lifestyles and get on with life in general. they don’t try to force people to accept and approve of their lifestyle, but they expect to be treated respectfully just as we do. one of these persons put like this “ in my world, people who are attracted to the opposite sex are the ones living an alternative lifestyle. i dont agree with the choice but i don’t harp on it either. i live and let live.” i tend to see the world the same way.


125 posted on 03/01/2009 5:13:44 PM PST by madamemayhem (Auntie Em: hate you, hate Kansas, took the dog. Dorothy)
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To: SIDENET

Maddow is an azzhole. A very unattractive woman in body and spirit. It has nothing to do with her being a lesbian.


126 posted on 03/01/2009 5:18:28 PM PST by linn37 (a mortgage in every pot)
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To: SIDENET

Maddow is an azzhole. A very unattractive woman in body and spirit. It has nothing to do with her being a lesbian.


127 posted on 03/01/2009 5:18:56 PM PST by linn37 (a mortgage in every pot)
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To: presidio9

gawd I can’t stand Maddow.....what more can I say...


128 posted on 03/01/2009 5:20:24 PM PST by Niteflyr ("If youÂ’re drawing flak, you know you're over the target".)
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To: presidio9

She looks like a dude. Nothing sexy about a chick who looks like a dude.


129 posted on 03/01/2009 5:21:50 PM PST by AmericanSphinx71 (Pray for America)
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To: presidio9

I think I’m gonna hurl!


130 posted on 03/01/2009 5:24:10 PM PST by McGruff (Oh no, there goes Tokyo! Go go PORKZILLA!)
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To: ConservativeMind

a fairly nice guy from queer across town..


131 posted on 03/01/2009 5:24:51 PM PST by brivette
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To: presidio9

"Dude!, You're getting a Dell."
132 posted on 03/01/2009 5:25:19 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: presidio9
Tell Rachel that I wouldn't procreate with her with my worst enemy's middle appendage. It's like going to the DU dumpster. I'd have to scrub my thing with a brillo pad and hydrochloric acid.

5.56mm

133 posted on 03/01/2009 5:29:23 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: presidio9

That’s a female?

Yoicks, I thought it was just some college metro-boy.

Nothing sexy, or even attractive there. Not to me, anyways


134 posted on 03/01/2009 5:32:16 PM PST by Don W (People who think are a threat to socialism)
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To: presidio9

Who is this person and why should I care?


135 posted on 03/01/2009 5:38:52 PM PST by BamaBlue
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To: presidio9
That guy in the dress is a beauty
Go all the way I swear you never can tell

--Tom Waits, "Union Square"

136 posted on 03/01/2009 5:45:55 PM PST by Erasmus (These days, it's hard for an iconoclast to keep up his image. -- Sid W Sodnagel)
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To: presidio9
Fred Savage from The Wonder Years sure has come a long ways...
137 posted on 03/01/2009 5:51:33 PM PST by FortWorthPatriot (Those who lack a needle on their moral compass can say anything and not see a problem with saying it)
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To: presidio9

Sex symbol?

Bahahahah! Bahahahah! Bahahahah! Bahahahah!

I’m gonna pee my pants if I don’t stop laughing.

The next thing they will say is how she as caused a spike in the sale of batteries!


138 posted on 03/01/2009 5:54:21 PM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: presidio9; All

Why do we — men and women, gay and straight — find Rachel Maddow androgenous?

FIXED IT.


139 posted on 03/01/2009 5:58:50 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: Skooz

LOL!


140 posted on 03/01/2009 6:00:19 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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