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1 posted on 02/28/2009 7:02:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 02/28/2009 7:06:53 AM PST by pointsal
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I've kept my eye open for an ape turning into a person my whole life but haven't discovered one yet. If any of you see this, would you please advise us here.
3 posted on 02/28/2009 7:09:36 AM PST by fish hawk (Atheism is a non-prophet organization)
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More background on Tony Campolo, the Professor Emeritus of Sociology at Eastern University and former pastoral counsellor to former President Bill Clinton:

Tony Campolo was the big-nosed, laughing doofus videotaped yukking it up with Bill "Intern Molester" Clinton at the funeral of Ron Brown. The two were heartily laughing about something Tony had said, unaware that they were being filmed. Suddenly Clinton spotted the video cameras and immediately transformed his laughing face into a face of grief, and put his hand over his face as if he were crying.
4 posted on 02/28/2009 7:10:31 AM PST by flowerplough (The new Pelosi/Obama Era operating procedure: business as usual with three extra zeros on the end.)
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In other news: Lenin Denounces Trotsky as a Traitor to the Revolution!
5 posted on 02/28/2009 7:12:36 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Actually, it all started back in Mayberry. Helen Crump was a traveler and Floyd, well, you know...)
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Why am I not surprised Bill Clinton's spiritual adviser supports Disinformation Institute propaganda?
7 posted on 02/28/2009 7:15:01 AM PST by Oztrich Boy ( As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities. - D)
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there is an infinite qualitative difference between the most highly developed ape and each and every human being

In the case of those human beings who served as Clinton minions, the difference is in favor of the ape.

9 posted on 02/28/2009 7:16:30 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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Many supporters of the principle of separation of church and state say that the Intelligent Design Theory of creation ought not to be taught in public schools because that it contains a religious bias.

Nope; the IDiots admitted to their religious bias their own selves.

11 posted on 02/28/2009 7:18:57 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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Hmm. I don’t recall being taught “Darwinism.”

I remember being taught about evolution and natural selection, and that these theories were first advanced by Darwin, but never any of the horrible (and horribly naive) conclusions that Darwin himself drew from his work.

Nor did a belief in the reasonableness of natural selection lead me to any sort of racist philosophy, so I was either to stupid to make the connection, or there was no connection at all, and Darwin’s racism was a personally motivated contortion of his own theories.

All that being said (and I’m about to commit freeper suicide here, but what the heck, personal intellectual honesty has its cost), if the Republican/Conservative Party insists on supporting ID in science classes, we are slipping a very heavy albatross around our necks, election-wise. It will be used against Jindal when the time comes for him to seek national office.

And, unfortunately, there are more voters turned off by ID being taught as a scientific alternative than turned on.

Remember, God and evolution are not mutually exclusive. ID, however, is faith-based (despite “irreducible coomplexity”) and belongs in Bible Study class, not science class, imho.


12 posted on 02/28/2009 7:19:32 AM PST by StatenIsland
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BTTT


13 posted on 02/28/2009 7:19:53 AM PST by XR7
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Intelligent Design does have a religious bias, which should be freely admitted. It’s patently absurd, or outright disingenous, to deny it.

But an attack on evolution, based on the assertion that Darwin was a racist, is about as stupid of an attack on science as it could get.

If you want to attack science, do it. Attacking the scientist is not attacking science. It’s something else entirely.


16 posted on 02/28/2009 7:23:45 AM PST by Dog Gone
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Darwinism doesn’t exist except in the minds of the insecure and deranged


18 posted on 02/28/2009 7:26:09 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . John Galt hell !...... where is Francisco dÂ’Anconia)
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It’s good to see Campolo again getting a few things right.

The ethical implications of Darwinism involve a non-existent God. For some more lenient than I, they see it meaning an on-and-off-again, absentee God.

Either way, it leads to a social ethic that either excises God, ignores Him, or turns Him into an indulgent Dutch Uncle.

Good for Campolo....finally.


19 posted on 02/28/2009 7:29:32 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain, Pro Deo et Patria)
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In case you think that Darwin sounds like a Nazi, you are not far from the truth. Konrad Lorenz, a biologist who provided much of the propaganda for the Nazi party, made Darwin's theories the basis for his polemics. The Pulitzer Prize winner, Marilynne Robinson, in her insightful essay on Darwin, points out that the German nationalist writer, Heinrich von Treitschke, and the biologist, Ernst Haeckel, also drew on Darwin's writings as they helped Hitler develop those racist ideas that led to the Holocaust.

How does the insightful Marilynne Robinson deal with this? -

Lists of Banned Books, 1932-1939

Guidelines from Die Bücherei 2:6 (1935), p. 279

6. Writings of a philosophical and social nature whose content deals with the false scientific enlightenment of primitive Darwinism and Monism (Häckel).

http://www.library.arizona.edu/exhibits/burnedbooks/documents.htm

________________________________________

Der Fuhrer sez:

"The advantages of a personal and political nature that might arise from compromising with atheistic organizations would not outweigh the consequences which would become apparent in the destruction of general moral basic values. The national Government regards the two Christian confessions as the weightiest factors for the maintenance of our nationality."

-A. Hitler, Speech to the Reichstag, March 23, 1933

http://www.hitler.org/speeches/03-23-33.html

22 posted on 02/28/2009 7:37:17 AM PST by Ken H
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It is amazing “the bunk” that passes for news today.


27 posted on 02/28/2009 8:23:05 AM PST by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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Tony Campolo is the guy that was seen on the video
with slick willie yucking it up at a memorial after
Ron Brown died under very unusual circumstances.

Some "christian"

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

30 posted on 02/28/2009 8:41:22 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, O YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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Personally, I hold to the belief that, regardless of how we got here, we should recognise that there is an infinite qualitative difference between the most highly developed ape and each and every human being. Darwin never recognised this disjuncture. And that is why his theories are dangerous.


These people talk about a “material power” standpoint when the point is about justice.

A world does not advance nor diversifies when based around the predator/prey model standoff of natural selection. It’s when a form of domestication and civilization occurs that everyone is given a chance and proper time at adapting properly.

Darwinism is dangerous because it hints that a genocidal dark age is preferable. It’s an easy and PC system to defend simply because it is a “lowest common denominator” of thinking: it is easy to politicaly defend the races/tribes of laziness, mediocrity and cowardice when it is so widespread and intelligence is so few, but much harder to actualy survive such dumb downed brutish environment in the end.

Another aspect is on reproduction. Easily approachable females are prone to be killed, but so are foolish males. Still, this is a predatorial model of relations. The real challenge lays in the form of faith and respect of the thrones of authorities, science, truth and justice, instead of the mad feeding dethroning activities that predatorial activities entail.

Darwinism errs in that it challenges truth and puts the truth in subserviant position. It’s not about ID vs. Darwinism, another coopted political dialectical battlefield preset to supplant Darwinism, but truth vs. Darwinism the issue.

It’s too easy to say Darwin is right when he is faced with inferior theories or theories derived from distorted and retarded interpretations of the Bible. But this has been a common communist tool to advance communism: invent Nazism so that Communism looks better just like when a cute but not beautiful girl always will hang around ugly chicks.

Such cheap self-subsidy does not pay the idiots who think they are smart cons undertaking it. And indeed, sometimes one is too smart and intelligent for their own good.


31 posted on 02/28/2009 8:45:58 AM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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Check out:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/

We’ve lost our Biblical foundation and thus we’re losing the youth to the public schools teaching them that the ‘creation’ is the stuff of fairy tales. Lots of good info on this website and Ken Ham is fantastic - heard him speak a couple of weeks ago .... one of the most powerful, thought-provoking, call-to-action sermons I’ve ever heard.


32 posted on 02/28/2009 8:52:11 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Obad. 1:15: As you have done, it will be done to you; your deeds will return upon your own head.)
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Darwin even argued against advanced societies wasting time and money on caring for those who are insane, or suffer from birth defects. To him, these unfit members of our species ought not to survive.

On this I agree. Liberals should not be encouraged to procreate.

47 posted on 02/28/2009 9:56:01 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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It is rare that I agree with Tony, but on this one he is right!


49 posted on 02/28/2009 11:02:28 AM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware of socialism in America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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Part of the problem is also the secular humanist idea that school children should be taught Darwinism in science classes but not be presented with the Christian idea of man in philosophy, theology, religion, or history classes. Darwinism is an ideology with philosophical claims about the nature of man even when taught in science classes by teachers without adequate training in philosophy, theology, or the history of ideologies. They don't know that they are teaching an ideology. They think it's just "science." They are not adequately prepared in their training to distinguish between science and scientism.
58 posted on 02/28/2009 5:22:18 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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