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Closed Door Politics (How a hardline position on immigration hurt the Republicans in 2008)
The American Prowler ^ | 2.24.09 | Richard Nadler

Posted on 02/24/2009 9:19:12 PM PST by nickcarraway

The election of 2008 proved catastrophic for opponents of comprehensive immigration reform. Republicans lost seven Senate seats -- eight if the courts sustain Al Franken's lead in Minnesota. On June 28, 2007, each of the eight previous office-holders (Republicans, all) voted to block the Bush administration's immigration bill. Replacing these eight immigration hardliners are five new senators clearly favorable to a comprehensive approach -- six, counting Franken -- and two whose positions are unclear. All, of course, are Democrats.

In the House, comprehensive immigration reformers picked up at least 14 votes, and "enforcement-only" advocates lost 14. Ten incumbent members of the restrictionist House Immigration Reform Caucus were defeated. The "enforcement first/enforcement only" cause lost such major spokesmen as Tom Feeney, Virgil Goode, Thelma Drake, Marilyn Musgrave, Ric Keller, Bill Sali, and Nancy Boyda.

In the face of such obvious losses, what's an immigration hawk to do? Writing for the Center for Immigration Reform, James Gimpel, professor of Politics at the University of Maryland, provides an answer: disclaim all responsibility. In Latino Voting in the 2008 Election, he uses the gigantic Edison-Mitofsky exit polls of 2004 and 2008 to make two principle points: first, that Latino voting patterns do not differ noticeably from national trends; and second, that the immigration issue played a negligible role in the election. He writes: "Latino voters just aren't that different from other voters in the national electorate. Their support for Republicans rises or falls when support for GOP candidates rises among the broader electorate."

There is a major problem with Professor Gimpel's assertion: the evidence he adduces in its defense disproves it. John McCain underperformed George W. Bush by 5 percent.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; aliens; bordersecurity; gop; hispanicvote; illegals; issues; mccain
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1 posted on 02/24/2009 9:19:12 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Total BS. The immigration issue wasn’t on the table in the Presidential election and played a minor role at the state level.


2 posted on 02/24/2009 9:21:28 PM PST by kabar
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To: nickcarraway

Hardline? Open borders (RNC) versus nonexistent borders (DNC).


3 posted on 02/24/2009 9:21:29 PM PST by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: nickcarraway

FOS


4 posted on 02/24/2009 9:22:46 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: kabar

It is because ACORN used illegal voters to change the results.


5 posted on 02/24/2009 9:24:09 PM PST by Ingtar (Americans have truly let America down. A sad day.)
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To: nickcarraway

We see how well open borders Mccain fared, eh?


6 posted on 02/24/2009 9:24:40 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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Bah...beat me by that much!


7 posted on 02/24/2009 9:27:08 PM PST by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....http://falconparty.com/)
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To: nickcarraway

Not allowing illegal immigrants a free pass into residency and citizenship was popular with most Americans IMO.
We lost seats because of President Bush being unpopular.


8 posted on 02/24/2009 9:28:44 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: nickcarraway

NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!


9 posted on 02/24/2009 9:29:05 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: nickcarraway

That “hardline” kept November 4th from being a landslide.


10 posted on 02/24/2009 9:30:50 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Just being a "U.S. citizen" does not make one an American.)
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To: nickcarraway

Nadler is an idiot.


11 posted on 02/24/2009 9:31:05 PM PST by Pelham (Just Doing Jobs Americans Won't Do.- GW Bush)
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To: kabar

“The immigration issue wasn’t on the table in the Presidential election and played a minor role at the state level.”

Bullsh—T...
It WAS on the table, especially in the Spanish Media. The Illegal Immigrant Riots of 2006, sponsored by all the Soros-funded groups like La Raza, ACCORN, and MoveOn.Borg turned Hispanics VEHEMENTLY against the Republican Party.


12 posted on 02/24/2009 9:36:52 PM PST by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: nickcarraway

No a soft line on immigration for the last 40 years has hurt Republicans.


13 posted on 02/24/2009 9:37:17 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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Most of the polls I say at the time showed 70% of the American public was against amnesty. How would taking a position favored by an overwhelming majority of the electorate (which McCain decidedly did not do) harm the ticket? I don’t get it.


14 posted on 02/24/2009 9:37:35 PM PST by Trod Upon (When it's time to shoot, shoot!)
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” Spanish Media.”

The very fact that we now have “Spanish Media” tells you all you need to know about how out of control and entrenched illegal immigration has become.

If we can’t get the crooks in the GOP and the Dems to deport the illegals themselves then maybe we can try a different law, one that deports the apologists for illegals. As if any country would want that assemblage of traitors.


15 posted on 02/24/2009 9:42:25 PM PST by Pelham (Just Doing Jobs Americans Won't Do.- GW Bush)
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To: Trod Upon

“I don’t get it.”

Well I get it. Nadler and the Spectator crowd wouldn’t tell the truth if it would save them from hanging.


16 posted on 02/24/2009 9:43:42 PM PST by Pelham (Just Doing Jobs Americans Won't Do.- GW Bush)
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To: nickcarraway

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2193437/posts


17 posted on 02/24/2009 9:47:32 PM PST by Pelham (Just Doing Jobs Americans Won't Do.- GW Bush)
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To: nickcarraway

BS


18 posted on 02/24/2009 9:47:44 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: nickcarraway

What rubbish. No one pushed any harder for amnesty than George W Bush and John McCain. The entire Republican leadership joined the Democrats in pushing for amnesty for illegal aliens. By doing so they sold out the American people.

Juan Hernandez worked on John McCain’s campaign. The Republicans lost because they betrayed their base. In fact they did everything they could to betray the American people.

An example of the duplicity involved in the issue was the sneering comment of Hernandez after the election. He said that Hispanics would make the Republicans pay for their failure to support amnesty. Obviously the Republicans did everything they could to push amnesty on the American people and apparently that wasn’t good enough for Hernandez and the open borders lobby.

I suspect that they knew Democrats were going to throw the borders open even wider than they had been over the last eight years. The whole thing is a monstrous charade. The American people have been hosed. It was bipartisan effort too.


19 posted on 02/24/2009 9:53:21 PM PST by SkipW
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It was bipartisan effort too.

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Seriously though, the people really DO get what they vote for. Or what they don't bother to vote for. I fear a wild run by the Democrats will wake the citizens to their responsibility too late to steer the ship back to stability.

20 posted on 02/24/2009 10:10:39 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (I still hear Kruschev's taunt, pounding on a podium saying they'll bury us. Not while I live!)
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