Posted on 02/24/2009 9:05:11 PM PST by AndrewWalden
Jindal:
As I grew up, my mom and dad taught me the values that attracted them to this country -- and they instilled in me an immigrant's wonder at the greatness of America. As a child, I remember going to the grocery store with my dad. Growing up in India, he had seen extreme poverty. And as we walked through the aisles, looking at the endless variety on the shelves, he would tell me: 'Bobby, Americans can do anything.'
Obama:
...Dillon, South Carolina - a place where the ceilings leak, the paint peels off the walls, and they have to stop teaching six times a day because the train barrels by their classroom. She has been told that her school is hopeless, but the other day after class she went to the public library and typed up a letter to the people sitting in this room. She even asked her principal for the money to buy a stamp. The letter asks us for help...
(Excerpt) Read more at hawaiifreepress.com ...
“Jindalls delivery at first was messed up because of the audio. His voice may be a little weak, but his message was very inspirational. I was impressed with his message.”
I agree. It’s a decent speech, with the right message, and his delivery was IMHO okay given the setting. You cant compete with a President and SOTU setting, so those panning him due to that comparison are being unfair.
I think Palin is fantastic and would not mind her in the top spot. But at the same time, I'm open to new conservative candidates, new personalities, etc. I'd just ask other Freepers to at least give Jindal (or any other relevant political figure) a chance and think about this with an open mind.
Sure, I think he did sound a bit sing-songy; but honestly, I've spent hours here reading people's complaints about Obama and how he is all style and little substance. Well, Jindal's speech was GREAT substance with decent style.
Well, I was impressed with his rebuttal and think it is what the American people need to hear.
Thoughts?
It was a great delivery if it was the high school valedictorian.
And he should get shirts with collars that fit so that he won’t look like such a pencil-neck.
I just heard it and I think that is a completely unfair characterization. He had the right message and response, critizing the $1 trillion big govt spending bill as not a stimulus, pointing out how the Republican view is to have faith in the people; etc. He looked fined and his presentation wasn’t that bad.
“And hell be fine in the future, too. I think he was judged a bit harshly last night its very easy to forget hes only 37. He has a long time to hone his speaking ability. Hes already outstanding on the give-and-take of interviews - far better and more thoughtful than Obama. Jindal is a proven leader; he showed that during the hurricane evac last year. He has his head on straight on the other issues as well.
Obamas nothing but an empty suit who gives a great speech nothing more.”
Good points all.
Reading some of the superficial responses here, I thought I was on DUh.
It’s not impossible. If a person with the correct credentials can start a dialouge addressing conservatives, that person does not have to be elected to anything.
Thinking that elected officials will have the stones to stand up and say what needs to be said, or LEAD is a fool’s game at this point.
Not at all. He did fine. The setting is not amenable to anything more than a friendly exposition of the Republican positions, done in a ‘non-partisan’ hopeful way. That is what Jindhal did. The speech as read was spot on, and as delivered was okay.
For all those who think that his speaking style is more important than the content of his speech and his conservative ideology, I hope you enjoy the wonderful Tele-Prompter readings by President Obama. HE can read well, can’t he?
Based on the comments on this thread, I suspect that the Republicans need to recruit another Actor to run for President. How about Tom Cruise? I know, he’s a miserable person, but doesn’t he read closing arguments in his movies well? And, after all, isn’t that what is really important?
I didn’t watch the speech, so I can’t comment on Jindal’s delivery. It reads very well though—exactly what I wanted to here.
It would be nice if there was evidence of some original thinking on the part of the GOP.
Why not to the Republican response to the speech in an auditorium filled with 5,000 people friendly to the GOP message? A hot audience reacting to Jindal would have elevated the performance, and may have inspired Jindal to a better performance.
The GOP really does plod along, married to convention. It’s the way it’s always been done, why change? The GOP needs a shot in the arm - I think if anyone in the GOP had a genuinely fresh and intelligent idea, it would die of loneliness. And I speak specifically of presentation and strategy, not substantive ideas.
His parents were not American citizens when he was born. ... You might want some ice for that sore spot you’re sporting.
ping
OK-so all you perfect people, who have never given a single speech your entire perfect life...can you tell me who would be the perfect conservative candadite??? Since you’re all obviously perfect & all-knowing I’m sure your candadite is perfect.
Personally, give me Jindal any day over Palin. She’d have fallen apart over having such a responsibility over giving that speech last night. To judge Jindal over A SINGLE SPEECH shows how uninformed, shallow & ignorant most FR posters are; that’s why I don’t post here much...spare me your “judgements” based on your own prejudice, racism, & stupidity.
Jindal has done more than any LA govenor to fight corruption, & he’s gone head to head with the RATS...
OK-now you can attack me in your oh, so elitist & uniformed “opinions”.
OH, & good luck trying to convince thinking people Palin is the party’s savior.
His half-brother George Hussein Onyango Obama, to whom he is so close, makes a fine first approximation.
The people you’re talking to have BRAINS, Bobby!! The part of the country you’re trying to reach has more than a JUNIOR HIGH EDUCATION, Bobby!!! WE’RE NOT THE DIMS, WE’RE ADULTS! My money is staying with Sarah!
Ok well fine. If so, and if it resonates, then if I'm Obama's crew I can grab onto that and adapt it to "hope n Change" no problem.
Rhetorically it's a loser because it can be anything to anyone.
Americans can do anything ===> Americans can pay more of their fair share.
Americans can do anything ===> Americans can provide Universal Healthcare.
Americans can do anything ===> Americans can all attend college for free.
Americans can do anything ===> Americans can afford to trade military spending for plattitudes about values.
It's a line with no meaning, no force, which can be adopted by any ideology.
"Government is not the solution to the problem, Government IS the problem" cannot be co-opted for anything other than what it says. It is powerful, it resonates in anyone's head. It sets a demarcation line between conservatism and growth-in-government libs.
That's the kind of resonant response needed last night, and Jindal is someone who can do it....so wtf happened?
Even Mr. Rogers never sounded like that!!!!! And Mr. Rogers spoke to children for a living. Jindal needs to speak like a man, and not like he's reading a children's fairy tale. I've never heard anything like it! A grown man talking to adults as if they were in nursery school.
Go back to DU. Who are you? Al Sharpton?
Palin has proven her communication skills during her grandious RNC acceptance speech. She would have sparkled if she would have given the SOTU response.
Her "gaffes" and "faults" were all during unfair, set-up, hostile MSM interviews and overblown, distorting, dishonest pettiness.
In every instance where Palin is communicating to Americans without the MSM filter, she is shining.
I like Jindal a lot. He has the substance, but not yet the style. He has to improve that. It's superficial, but it is critically needed to win elections. I will gladly support him, should he run in 2016 or 2020. But 2012 my support will go to Governor Palin.
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