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Satellite Sensor Has Catastrophic Failure - Arctic Sea Ice Underestimated For At Least 45 Days
WattsUpWithThat.com ^ | 18 February 2009 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 02/19/2009 2:05:53 AM PST by zeestephen

Today NSIDC [National Snow and Ice Center] announced they had discovered the reason [for an abrupt drop in Arctic sea ice]. The sensor on the Defense Meteorological Satellite Program (DMSP) satellite they use had degraded and now apparently failed to the point of being unusable. Compounding the bad news they discovered it had been in slow decline for almost two months, which caused a bias in the arctic sea ice data that underestimated the total sea ice by 500,000 square kilometers. This will likely affect the January NSIDC sea ice totals.

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1 posted on 02/19/2009 2:05:53 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

The satellite failure, of course, is due to global warming so in net terms it’s a wash /sarc.


2 posted on 02/19/2009 2:10:35 AM PST by Ahithophel (Padron@Anniversario)
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To: zeestephen

Another “correction”.

This “error” enabled the Global Warming idiots to go through the election and transition seasons declaring that Artic sea ice is declining at record levels, etc. And now that nobody is paying attention to them, they issue the correction.

How “convenient”.


3 posted on 02/19/2009 2:17:12 AM PST by gridlock (QUESTION AUTHORITY)
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To: zeestephen

of course we wont hear anything about this...the GW is total bunk science...even fringe science

if it was the other direction of course...

it would be all sackcloth and ashes, burning virgins and screaming conspiracy...


4 posted on 02/19/2009 2:19:41 AM PST by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!!)
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To: neverdem; xcamel; steelyourfaith; patton; Cyber Liberty

Fortunately - certainly NOT because the AGW zealots delayed their press releases until the erroneous data was found, checked and removed! - no press release was pushed on the gullible public about this ‘notlost” lost sea ice.

BTW - the error was found - not by internal audits by NASA or NRDC - but by external “non-UN non-IPCC-certified non-peer-reviewed non-scientific” observers.


5 posted on 02/19/2009 2:20:03 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: gridlock

To give them credit, they found the error when it was reported by a number of people when it was obvious there was a massive breakdown in the data. I noticed it myself for the past week as I look at the ice concentration on a daily basis. Here are more details on what happened:

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/


6 posted on 02/19/2009 2:21:50 AM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: zeestephen

Frankly, the whole Global Warming debate has become so political, I don’t trust a damn thing anybody says anymore. The “scientists” have their thumbs on the scale at every turn. And the Russians, who have the most to gain by promoting the scare, because they have carbon credits to sell when nobody else does, are the source of most of the anomolous warming data.


7 posted on 02/19/2009 2:26:18 AM PST by gridlock (QUESTION AUTHORITY)
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To: zeestephen

James Hansen must have gotten control of Rove’s weather machine and aimed it at the satellite to blow out the sensor.


8 posted on 02/19/2009 2:29:22 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (What's Obama's Secret?)
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To: zeestephen

It’s unbelievable (because lies are unbelievable) that they didn’t notice. Here’s my post from 6 weeks ago:

To: SamAdams76

“I participate in weather forums”

then maybe you can help me. What is going on at NSIDC site?

http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_timeseries.png

The Etch-a Sketch graph now has a negative inflection for last year’s ice accumulation (it wasn’t there before today)and they are late in the month for their summary. I think they’re having a battle over who gets to twist the dials of the Etch a Sketch. They all attacked the guy who was showing the ice cap growing too fast in November and had the curve level off so it wouldn’t get near the 30 year line. Then the truth faction counter attacked and started estimating faster growth again. Then they compromised and decided to have the line coincide with last years’. But now they have that newly imposed dip in last years’ line to deal with — the ice is melting in the dead of winter?? I think the NSIDC is in meltdown.

20 posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:35:03 PM by gusopol3


9 posted on 02/19/2009 2:41:53 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Aussiebabe

Remember our bet? I wonder who would have won if the race weren’t rigged?

To: gusopol3

I would guess November 21.

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.365.jpg

October 24, 2008 versus October 24, 1999.

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=10&fd=24&fy=1999&sm=10&sd=24&sy=2008

16 posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 9:19:25 PM by Aussiebabe


10 posted on 02/19/2009 2:55:16 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: zeestephen

This explains everything; so Dr. Hansen and Al Gore were fitted with the same sensors ten years ago...I knew there must be a logical explanation.


11 posted on 02/19/2009 3:01:38 AM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; Desdemona; rdl6989; Little Bill; ...
How convenient !

 




Beam me to The Top of the World !

12 posted on 02/19/2009 3:02:03 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Hope + Change = PORKULU$)
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To: gusopol3

Yep, I do remember that. The ice was growing at a record rate when we picked the dates. I still think I would have been closer. I don’t think the satellite went bad until sometime in late December, but who knows?

I wonder if they will get the satellite working by the time the Arctic ice starts melting. One thing they didn’t explain very well is, is the the satellite data from the same satellite for the South Pole? Because that shows it has also been decreasing a faster rate in the past month than it had been.


13 posted on 02/19/2009 3:13:37 AM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: Aussiebabe

I still think those graphs are drawn with a guy with an Etch a Sketch. Seriously, I’ll bet you’re dealing with Global warming hype day and night with your heat and fires. Hope all is well with your area.


14 posted on 02/19/2009 3:20:10 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

I think you do have a good point that if people like us noticed it, they should have caught it sooner. The problem is that most of these sites that receive the raw data first, believe in Global Warming, so it takes something to hit them in the head before they start doubting the data. I have a friend who is now calling it, for short, GWR (Global Warming Religion).


15 posted on 02/19/2009 3:20:53 AM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: gusopol3
Yeah, we have been really lucky with the fires so far. We live about 400 miles west of where the fires are. We can smell the smoke and it has caused the sunset to be bright red (actually kind of pretty). We normally get little rainfall and high temperatures and fires, but the temperatures have were 115-120 F for a week. It is down in the 90’s now.

Of course, all the GWR nuts are saying the fires were caused by global warming (about half were arsonists). They discount we are having record rains in the Northeast —the receive 14 inches of rain three days ago just north of Sydney which broke the drought there.

Many of the residents are blaming the Greens and the Global Warming activists for the massive destructions of the homes as they were not allowed to clear the brush and cut down trees in the towns like Marysville. So there is a big fight between he activist and the residents.

16 posted on 02/19/2009 3:26:10 AM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: Aussiebabe

yeah, that’s the funny thing about GLOBAL warming— first it’s here, then it’s there, you can just never quite catch up with it. Hey, sounds like that old concept, “weather.”


17 posted on 02/19/2009 3:32:24 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: zeestephen

LOL! I went to a website yesterday to see what was happening with Arctic sea ice and they had an article about Jan sea ice and how expansion had effectively stopped for Jan. They blamed it on changing wind patterns.


18 posted on 02/19/2009 3:53:22 AM PST by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: zeestephen

Nothing wrong here that a pencil won’t correct. Ain’t them pencils something?


19 posted on 02/19/2009 4:20:46 AM PST by Waco
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To: Waco
Nothing wrong here that a pencil won’t correct. Ain’t them pencils something?

As a golfer, I can tell you that the best "wood" in my golf bag is the pencil.

20 posted on 02/19/2009 4:24:17 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat. But they know what's best.)
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