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Ant Algorithms Argue Against Evolutionary Origins
ICR ^ | February 17, 2009 | Brian Thomans, M.S.

Posted on 02/17/2009 7:24:24 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

Ant Algorithms Argue Against Evolutionary Origins

by Brian Thomas, M.S.*

Traffic jams are a frustrating part of modern life, and many dream of the kind of uncongested roadway systems shown in futuristic movies like Minority Report. But some researchers have suggested that ideal traffic management algorithms already exist—in ants...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: antalgorithms; creation; evolution; freepun; intelligentdesign; oldearthspeculation
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1 posted on 02/17/2009 7:24:24 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: gondramB; editor-surveyor; metmom; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; GourmetDan; MrB; valkyry1; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 02/17/2009 7:25:17 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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A weak argument in my opinion (though I’m a creationist). How often do ants have to navigate a one lane trail?


3 posted on 02/17/2009 7:33:51 PM PST by webboy45
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To: webboy45

There’s just no possible way to explain social insects via evolution. Just way too complicated and brain size way, way too tiny.


4 posted on 02/17/2009 7:36:30 PM PST by wendy1946
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5 posted on 02/17/2009 7:49:45 PM PST by smokingfrog ( Dear Mr. Obama - Please make it rain candy! [ I like jelly beans.])
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To: smokingfrog

Complete with an ant traffic cop. Thems ants are ingenious!


6 posted on 02/17/2009 7:51:21 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

How come there are ants?


7 posted on 02/17/2009 7:51:29 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Ants and bees are identical clones within a colony. The survival of an individual ant becomes irrelevant. As long as the colony survives, their collective genetic code survives. The basic genetic unit of ants is the colony, not the individual ants.


8 posted on 02/17/2009 7:59:45 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Thus, these algorithms must have formed together all at once, as would have been the case if they were created by the God of the Bible.

God's a programmer!

9 posted on 02/17/2009 8:30:18 PM PST by AZLiberty (I hope Obama changes.)
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DNA Seen Through the Eyes of a Coder

http://ds9a.nl/amazing-dna/


10 posted on 02/17/2009 8:33:26 PM PST by poindexters brother
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To: tacticalogic
Ants and bees are identical clones within a colony. The survival of an individual ant becomes irrelevant. As long as the colony survives, their collective genetic code survives. The basic genetic unit of ants is the colony, not the individual ants.

The perfect summation of the Democrat platform, just replace "ants" with "workers" and "bees" with "consumers".

11 posted on 02/17/2009 8:33:42 PM PST by TaoOfSteve
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


12 posted on 02/17/2009 8:46:45 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: GodGunsGuts

I’m always amazed by how many tasks individual ants (or bees) can perform, with no training whatsoever. That information is hard-wired into place, upon hatching. Pretty amazing stuff, really.


13 posted on 02/17/2009 9:02:08 PM PST by DNME ("When small men cast long shadows, the sun is about to set.")
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To: GodGunsGuts

Evolution and Christianity are perfectly compatible.


14 posted on 02/18/2009 11:13:08 AM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: tacticalogic

Where does the queen fit in?


15 posted on 02/18/2009 5:11:35 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

Are you really interested, or just looking for an opening?


16 posted on 02/18/2009 6:35:25 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Are you really interested, or just looking for an opening?


both, but I’d be willing to give you the benefit of the doubt on this one.

I just watched a fascinating piece on hornets in the Japanese alps.


17 posted on 02/19/2009 6:15:58 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tacticalogic

You are forgetting that queen bees (on their nupitual flight) can and seek to mate with many drones, from other colonies.

One queen can thus have varying genetic material to fertilize her own. Worker bees from the same colony can vary.

But then perhaps I'm putting to fine a point on it, for the context within which you used the statement.

18 posted on 02/19/2009 8:57:32 PM PST by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon

...that would be “too fine” a point, rather than “to” , which would’t make sense...


19 posted on 02/19/2009 9:00:21 PM PST by BlueDragon
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To: GodGunsGuts
"Could nature have selected mutations that led to ant algorithms, as neo-Darwinism maintains? This would seem impossible, for without each algorithm already present and integrated with pheromone and tactile sensory inputs―as well as the motor control and muscular systems―the ants would all die."

Just because the didn't have the 'final algorithm' didn't mean they couldn't live, they just were as efficient. Those that developed better algorithms lived more efficiently and multiplied more.

20 posted on 02/19/2009 9:05:22 PM PST by ColdWater
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