Posted on 02/15/2009 5:37:42 PM PST by george76
Is Barack Obama a socialist?
Well, yes and no. If you mean by that what Americans used to call "creeping socialism" and the Brits called Fabian socialism, yes, Obama is definitely that. Creeping socialism and Fabian socialism is a movement towards socialism by gradual democratic means.
The Earmarks of creeping socialism are increasing government regulation of business, an increasingly graduated income tax, rapidly increasing government spending, and an increasing number of government social engineering projects. Obama's record and public utterances show that he supports all these things except when the shifting political winds of are blowing contrary to these purposes.
What is socialism?
Tidy-minded political political philosophers define socialism as government ownership and management of business and the means of production.
In the present crisis, the government has bought preferred stock in banks, acquired huge blocks of bad mortgages from Fanny Mae, and taken over the management of AIG, a gigantic insurance company. If the government gives up these acquisitions when the crisis has passed, it is not socialism. If the government greedily hangs on to these treasures, it is socialism.
Is Obama a Marxist?
We only know three things on this subject: (1) As a youth and a young man, Obama had two mentors, both of whom were Marxists Frank Marshall Davis, and The Reverend Wright.
(2) As a young man, Obama was influenced by the writings of the Marxist Saul Alinski.
(3) Obama periodically makes comments that, to my ears, have a faintly Marxist ring such as "economic justice," "coalitions for redistributive change," "spread the wealth,"
(Excerpt) Read more at renewamerica.us ...
IMO
Fascist, with socialist leanings, more like it.
YES he is
Socialist leaning to Communist to Fascist
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
Read and compare.
There is little daylight between Marxism and Obama’s policies. In fact, if Marxists were to design a “smooth coup”, what would they be doing any different than Obama, Emanuel, Axelrod, et al?
‘Gramscii was the Italian communist who said that the left needed to infiltrate and take over the means of culture and communication in the West, eventually causing the society to adopt communist values without having a revolution.
Alinsky is the Chicago community organizer who provided rules for radicals to effect social change.’
ht redpoll
Obama would need the value of the entire porculus bill to buy a clue.
This loon has never had an idea...and wouldn’t know what to do with one if it found him.
Walks like a Duck...etc.
"The Communist Party USA views the 2008 elections as a tremendous opportunity to defeat the policies of the right-wing Republicans and to move our country in a new progressive direction.
The record turnout in the Democratic Presidential primary races shows that millions of voters, including millions of new voters, are using this election to bring about real change. We wholeheartedly agree with them."
http://cpusa.org/article/articleview/907/1/4/
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Congratulations on an extraordinary history making election!
We can think back with pride to decades of hard work toward our strategic goal of a big enough, broad enough and united enough labor and all-peoples movement that could overcome the ultra-right blockage to all progress. That all peoples movement has come to life, it is dynamic and it has the potential to keep growing.
The election of Barack Obama and a strengthened Congress creates new conditions in our country. There is now the possibility to shift gears and move forward. This new day requires us to further develop our tactics in order to continue to deepen and broaden labor and peoples unity.
There are thousands of experiences that we all have had in these momentous days, some large, some small, all of which express the enormity of change in thinking and readiness for involvement that is underway and that steels us for the battles ahead.
The tears of joy we all shared as crowds gathered to watch the election results here and throughout the world dramatize the new moment we are in.
http://cpusa.org/article/articleview/991/1/154/
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Saul Alinsky on "Change"...
From Rules for Radicals, Alinsky outlines his strategy in organizing, writing:
"There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution."
Saul Alinsky, The Latter Rain
http://latter-rain.com/ltrain/alinski.htm
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"Barack Obama told supporters that
'change has come to America' as he
claimed victory in a historic presidential election."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/election.president/index.html
“This loon has never had an idea...and wouldnt know what to do with one if it found him.”
Who’s doing his thinking for him? Most Americans are too dumbed-down to be upset by the answer.....
You know... the ones holding the strings also have a way of making martyrs of their own, if it’s serves the purpose of more chaos.
No he is not.
He's a communist.
Hey!!! That is insulting ... to Socialists.
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Freedoms March is planning a march on Washington
Anti-Obama organizations are being united for a million man march on Washington. The permit is secured
From FreedomsMarch:
PRESIDENT OBAMA, WE DEMAND THAT YOU BE TRANSPARENT NOW
We will come together in a peaceful rally. We are proud Americans who fear that we are losing the America we all know and love. The America where millions have served in our military sacrificing and giving their lives so that we remain free. A people who honor their flag and understand what it means to fly it and be so proud to do so. It is time for our voices to be heard loud and clear. Our government is for the people and by the people. Where is that now? We are PRO GOD, PRO LIFE, PRO GUN Americans who see our rights slipping away as we speak. It is time our voices are heard. It is time for us to shout loudly and strongly that we refuse to live under a socialist regime, where our voices are silenced. Lets take this action now before we awaken one morning and our freedoms are nothing more than a memory.
We ask you TO wear RED, WHITE AND BLUE CLOTHING... BRING YOUR FLAGS WAVE THEM HIGH... SIGNS WILL BE PROVIDED.. WE WANT TO GIVE THE GREATEST IMPRESSION OF WHO WE ARE AS WE WILL BE SEEN ALL OVER THE WORLD. UNITED AND PEACEFUL AND WITH CONTROL. WE WILL LEAVE THE GROUNDS AS CLEAN AS THEY WERE GIVEN TO US.
No food or beverage will be provided. Your welcomed to bring your own.
Entertainment will be provided. We are setting up a wonderful assortment of guest speakers,, political and non political,prominent people and many surprises. Major news networks, including CNN, MSNBC and Fox News. Resistnet.com will also attend. MUCH more to come .
A special thanks to Plains Radio and Ed Hale for their dedication to bring the truth and the light to America on the Internet.
Please make your reservations early as hotels and motels will fill quickly.
We are God,s Army. The soldiers of voice and heart that believe in AMERICA for one nation as it stands indivisible with liberty and justice for All. We marched with Dr Martin Luther King and placed our hands upon our hearts as we sang. We knew what was right, what was good and of God. We stand united and strong for we are Right and mighty and proud and in Dr. Martin Luther King,s words, WE SHALL OVERCOME.
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Freedoms first has recently received permission to hold our protest in Washington DC. Our protest will now be held at the lincoln Memorial Reflections Pool in front of the Lincoln memorial ,on a date that will be released on feb 12 2009.
We find this very interesting because just two weeks earlier Washington told us we could no protest in DC for at least a year and a half . But the day the spendulus bill passes we get a call from Washington inviting us with a choice of dates and locations. Folks we take this as a sign that our country if starting to realise the mistake they have made with putting Obama in office.
We will have live speakers and other entertainment for you.
WE would like to see 1 million supporters attend this protest. It is time to take our country back and make our voices heard.
Why are we protesting ?
1. To get the attention of the mainstream media.
2. To demand That Obama Provide proof that he is eligible to be president.
3. To demand that Congress and the Supreme court uphold our constitution.
4. To inform the public on the issue of Obamas ineligibility to be president of the USA.
5. To demand that they can not take our constitutional rights away.
6. To say no to abortions.
Please take the time to sign up so we have an idea of how many people we have attending and to get update emails so you know what to do , where to meet , where to park and what is happening so on and so forth.
Obama bots say Yes we can... WE are saying.. NO YOU CANT !!!!!!!!!!!
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“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened.”
Norman Thomas, American socialist
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