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The Cloward-Piven Strategy to implement socialist revolution
Cloward-Piven.com ^ | Tue Sep 27, 2005 | discoverthenetwork.com

Posted on 02/12/2009 5:49:38 AM PST by ebiskit

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Excellent synopsis of the socialists' traitorous malfeasance & political 'trickeration.' We are being engaged in an unfair fight for the very soul of the Republic.

Liberty can be such an ugly pursuit.

thaDeetz

1 posted on 02/12/2009 5:49:38 AM PST by ebiskit
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read


2 posted on 02/12/2009 5:59:39 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: ebiskit

Note that either Cloward or Piven (or both?) were guests at Bill Clinton’s inauguration


3 posted on 02/12/2009 5:59:54 AM PST by silverleaf ("Men are not angered by mere misfortune but by misfortune conceived as injury" - Screwtape)
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Excellent post. It’s a “save” AND a “print”.


4 posted on 02/12/2009 6:03:26 AM PST by Humble Servant (See y'all in the Gulag.)
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To: grady

ping for later


5 posted on 02/12/2009 6:06:33 AM PST by grady ("Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading." - Unknown)
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To: ebiskit

Excellent post. It’s a “save” AND a “print”.


6 posted on 02/12/2009 6:06:35 AM PST by Humble Servant (See y'all in the Gulag.)
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Well that Clove Pliven strategy can work both ways....we can start making the socialists live up to their so called promises and make them live up to their so called utopian principles.
I think you saw that from the Fort Myers visit....folks there calling upon Obama to “save” them from their economic
circumstances. Let’s start overloading the socialists with demands to fix every possible social ill and sarcastically denouncing them when they fail.

That’s why Rush is so hated by the socialists. He goes Clovian on them, using the same tactics the socialists apply to conservatives.


7 posted on 02/12/2009 6:08:01 AM PST by mdmathis6
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Great find. Thanks for posting that.

“We are being engaged in an unfair fight for the very soul of the Republic.” Amen.

Like the man says, “If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics $uck.”

These worms do not need to win; they only need for us to not win and they know it. They are the same punks who put sugar in your gas tank. No need to stop the car itself or even the whole engine, just stop enough of it to stop the rest of it.

It most certainly is “an unfair fight for the very soul of the Republic,” and we either start fighting to win or we fight to lose.

8 posted on 02/12/2009 6:08:10 AM PST by shoutingandpointing
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[ Note that either Cloward or Piven (or both?) were guests at Bill Clinton’s inauguration ]

And probably at Bush and O'bamas too.. since Bush paved the ground work for O'bamas Coup D'etat..

9 posted on 02/12/2009 6:10:52 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: ebiskit
Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) is on board:


10 posted on 02/12/2009 6:11:17 AM PST by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: silverleaf

We need the right’s version of acorn!


11 posted on 02/12/2009 6:12:30 AM PST by bicyclerepair (Thank you Mr. Robinson for FR. from: Ft. Lauderdale Florida)
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Poor people can advance only when "the rest of society is afraid of them,"

I'm not afraid of them. I'm more heavily armed than any poor person I ever met. I grew up around poor people - most everyone I knew was poor when I was a child. I've said it before on this forum and I'll say it again. Poor people are poor because they make stupid decisions over and over and over again. No one who repeatedly makes stupid decisions frightens me, unless they're at the wheel of a car that I'm riding in.

12 posted on 02/12/2009 6:17:49 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The Fairness Doctrine isn't about "Fairness" - it's about Doctrine.)
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“Make the enemy live up to their (sic) own book of rules,” Alinsky wrote in his 1972 book Rules for Radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judaeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system’s failure to “live up” to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist “rule book” with a socialist one. “

Did you ever read the Arthurian legends...particularly the rise of Mordred who used such tactics against his father King Arthur? This fomented civil war and the destruction of Camelot as well as the Death of Arthur as well as Mordred.

I think I’ll start referring to the Dem’s as the Mordred party...or the “Mordreds”. Rebellion, hate, and death lay in the Heart of Mordred in his contempt towards his father just as the modern Mordreds hate the US and all of her Judeo-Christian adherents.


13 posted on 02/12/2009 6:18:08 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: ebiskit

Horowitz does a good job of keeping the history of the current usurpation of the Constitution understood.


14 posted on 02/12/2009 6:18:53 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: mdmathis6

oops meant Cloward...!


15 posted on 02/12/2009 6:19:45 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: bicyclerepair

We need a coherent strategy that defeats Saul Alinsky


16 posted on 02/12/2009 6:20:36 AM PST by silverleaf ("Men are not angered by mere misfortune but by misfortune conceived as injury" - Screwtape)
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To: ebiskit

I can’t stand Jeremy Piven.


17 posted on 02/12/2009 6:25:40 AM PST by isom35
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I think part of the problem is that as a society we have largely forgotten that liberty is the product of constant struggle and vigilance, not something you win once and then don't have to defend. It's time to fight, and fight hard.

The fight has to start with shining a light on the enemies of liberty. For too long they have been able to operate in the shadows, and hide their intentions by wrapping them in more acceptable terms. An important aspect of shining that light is to educate the public about the tactics used by those who want to push socialism on us and collapse our current system. The tactics proposed by Alinsky, for example, should be so well known that they cannot be carried out without recognition.

Further, we can no longer let false characterizations and generalizations stand. For example, the characterization of ‘the poor’ as a monolithic group of people who have been unfairly treated and hurt by society is just not accurate. Yes, there are certainly people who have been unfairly treated and suffered because of societal wrongs. But not everyone is Bob Cratchit or Tiny Tim, and people wind up in different places in the world for a variety of reasons, including personal choices. It is very, very important that we do not let the argument be framed as ‘rich vs. poor’. We should hold up those in our society who have worked hard and achieved on that basis as role models, not victimizers.

Also, taking a page from the leftist playbook, we need to be louder and more persistent in our ‘righteous indignation’. When people like Cloward and Piven use tax-exempt universities as their soap-box to push for the dissolution of our society we cannot let them go unchallenged. What exactly is sedition? Seems to me that calling for a collapse of the economic system of your home country is sedition.

18 posted on 02/12/2009 6:26:57 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: ebiskit

Fascinating reading. Thanks for posting.


19 posted on 02/12/2009 6:30:57 AM PST by Bearshouse
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I believe that if zerO released his college records, you would see that professors Cloward and Piven taught a certain foreign student...


20 posted on 02/12/2009 6:32:07 AM PST by genetic homophobe ("I readily concede I chucked aside my free-market principles..." defend that)
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