They're calling down the thunder.
Posted on 02/12/2009 5:49:38 AM PST by ebiskit
Well, the Cloward-Piven strategy seeks to destroy the welfare system, so the underclass will become desperate and revolutionary. Obama’s porkulus seeks to expand the welfare system. So at least on that fundamental point, the Cloward-Piven & the stimulus do not jive.
I am very impressed with the progress in awareness and understanding that has appeared in posts on FR in the past few months. Postings have gone from the “Gee, the leftists sure are stupid to think X,” to an illumination and examination of the theories, tactics, literature and history of the left. The next step is to identify a plan for Americans (i.e., “conservatives”) to reverse the left’s overthrow of our honorable government.
Here are a couple of additional questions for discussion. How do Americans improve the education of the majority of young people so they learn the truth about the nature and opportunities of American freedom and responsibility? How do Americans develop an effective information source that reaches the majority of people with truthful non-socialist information?
By the way, a lesson can be learned from the socialist radicals about advancing a societal goal. The battlefield is economic—wins and losses will be determined from balance sheets. Imagine if the socialists were faced with the possibility their debt holders would demand payment or take control from them. That would reign them in quickly. Allies can be found in those who have their grip on the left’s funding. The battlefield is economic.
I like that analogy. It puts our situation into a more noble perspective. “Merlin” is one of my all time favorite movies (the one with Sam Neill and Isabella Rossellini). The actor who plays Mordred does a FANTASTIC job.
“...The fight has to start with shining a light on the enemies of liberty. For too long they have been able to operate in the shadows, and hide their intentions by wrapping them in more acceptable terms. An important aspect of shining that light is to educate the public about the tactics used by those who want to push socialism on us and collapse our current system. The tactics proposed by Alinsky, for example, should be so well known that they cannot be carried out without recognition...”
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True and nice post. The question is how do we do it? What I see is that the “soapbox” rarely works for “our side”, probably because Lefty has successful at lying, cheating, degrading natural truths and morals,and brainwashing the majority of people on a number of issues and in number of ways. In addition, Lefty is very good at labeling such talk as “kooky” and “conspiracy” and attacking Truth with more of their lies.
Our mindset is different than theirs - we use Truth, while they lie without remorse. They also created the widespread moral relativism which allows them to further their agenda without remorse and without recourse.
While I agree that reeducation is required, I just don’t know how to do that other than consistent grass roots efforts on our part - subtle comments, emails, and discussions with family and friends, while at the same standing up to Leftys using truth and tact - just be prepared because many of them border on lunacy.
Of course, we also need the right political candidates at the right time - McCain could have blown the doors off of Obama and didn’t even try.
“So at least on that fundamental point, the Cloward-Piven & the stimulus do not jive.”
If they overload the system then they have to expand it, thus more financial crisis.
They're calling down the thunder.
You overload the sate bureaucracy until it breaks and then you replace it with.... A STATE Bureaucracy??? This doesn't make sense!
You can see the influence of cold war Soviet infiltration. This was designed to destroy the economic and political might of the USA so that the Soviet Union could continue its globalist empire building. They used these "intellectuals" to advocate the destruction of US infrastructure and these "intellectuals" used the least integrated and least intelligent people in our society as pawns.
It was NEVER about helping the poor. Living conditions for most American blacks has stayed about the same since the 1960s. A few affirmative action elite have risen from the ghetto (one even made it to the White House). But, the vast majority of them are still poor, uneducated, disenfranchised and seriously exploited.
These leftist terrorists should be rooted out and hung.
About a two years ago I had to go to the SS office in Dallas to replace a lost SS card. I went on three separate occasions and each time the waiting room was full and there was a long line outside waiting their turn. These were not old people but instead were young minorities, each accompanied by someone with a briefcase or hand full of folders, seeking some disability claim I suppose.
I gave up on the Dallas office and went to several smaller towns because I had been told that I could get right in and out at those places. Same story at every one of the.
They are obviously trying to crash the SS system even sooner than it will fall on its own.
It’s 100% correct, this is the strategy they have used against us since 1977 and the CRA, they have been setting up the Poor People they “Claim” to be helping to have their lives destroyed, and made even poorer. People that has used this do not deserve the title of Human, and they are in dire need of a permanent dirt nap.
It is very basic.
As the song goes “Teach you children well,Salute whatever flag they offer. I am with the high command”. etc. etc.
It is our responsibility to teach our children what is right. You have to teacher proof them. I am proud to say that I have four children who were teacher proof. They understand the BS put out by the MSM.
“So at least on that fundamental point, the Cloward-Piven & the stimulus do not jive.”
The over-arching purpose is to grow the entitlement class so vast that capitalism buckles from the stress.
A new system of wealth redistribution will be demanded due to rampant dissatisfaction and the apparent failure of the present socio-economic structure.
There is never any real intent to ‘satisfy’ the underclass.
Porkulus is expressly designed to grow the disaffected prole’s numbers.
Porkulus is meant to vastly outstrip capitalism’s ability to satisfy the proletariat demand.
Porkulus will become the ‘base-line’ for future budgets.
When has there ever been any ‘real’ cuts in government expenditures?
C-P & Porkulus do jive with dire national consequences being the desired end result.
Each subsequent event of this ‘crisis’ is designed to cruelly feed upon the preceding events, thereby creating a critical mass where the state has the only means, albeit illusory, to resolve such apocalyptic occurrences.
Listen closely to the words of O and take him quite literally.
I do.
Lately, O and his minions have been vociferously expressing such a ‘deification of state.’
The ends are to create a tipping-point in the national atmosphere where the grossly uninformed will gladly surrender Constitutional principle for a simple bowl of gruel from a perceived national savior.
IOW, Embrace the ‘Socialist’ Suck.
thaDeetz
Then... the Soviet Union collapses and CAPITALISM flourishes in Russia and Europe and China and South America (to some extent). The Old Soviet apparatus was abandoned in the USA as the world began chasing capitalist wealth. Instead of dying off, the American Left has taken up the spiritual crusade and is now the strongest leftist movement in the world. The result if this national nightmare is that real Americans have forgotten and abandoned their history and Constitutional rights, drinking the Koolaide of the Left after 30-60 years of NEA social indoctrination.
Marx, Lenin and Stalin and Khrustiev are dead but the international philosophy is strong and now being led from the White House through Obama's puppet masters like Ayers and others.
The Suffragettes used all the same tactics in the early 20th century.
Don't let them define the terms of the debate!
Problem solved!
CA....
It was that model of Mordred(from Merlin) that I’ve envisioned as personifying what a twisted mass of evil the Democratic party has become. I even believe that if they found them-selves losing popular support, they would rather the country go down in flames with them!
(and as for you NSA snoopers who might be sniffing these postings; how do you like working for the Mordreds?)
There’s also an excellent article link on that page.
Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html
I’ve been writing CLOWARD-PIVEN on people’s notepads and cubicle boards all week.
“the Soviet Union collapses and . . . The Old Soviet apparatus was abandoned”
I don’t think the USSR/Russian core capitulated communist principle to the extent we here in the west believe.
It only ‘went dark.’
PM Putin as ‘former’ KGB and present Russian authoritarian activities buttress this theory.
They knew ‘hot-war’ would be disastrous on both fronts and had to develop a ‘new plan’ for conquest.
Rope-a-Dope works well, ask Ali.
We may have witnessed the biggest game of ‘possum’ ever.
Remember, the devil’s best trick has been to convince many that he does not exist.
thaDeetz
I also have to point out that the same thing was done with Sub Prime Mortgages, they SET UP POOR PEOPLE TO FAIL, thereby destroying both the housing and Banking industries.
I would LOVE to have those two burned at the stake of the Media, but of course, the Media is in on it too.
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