Does it really matter??
Will the Senate need 60 votes for final passage or is it a simple majority now. If that is the case, we are soooooooooooooooo screwed.
Yes, they need 60.
Will the Senate need 60 votes for final passagez
Yes, they need 60.
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The current rule of 60 votes for passage was made when the “stupid” republicans made a deal with the minority democrats when the Republicans had the majority of both the House and the Senate. Who knows how long that will last though.
In hindsight, guess it could save our neck now that we’re in the minority. Like I said, my guess is that this will change... soon.
They first need 60 votes for cloture, but after that they only need a simple majority.
If Spector and Collins vote no on cloture, then it’s killed . . . for a while. Don’t kid yourself, though - the Dims will keep bringing it up, or close cousins of it, from now until they pass it. Or until they lose the majority.
Sixty votes are required on any bill in the Senate that adds to the deficit so this bill more that meets that criteria and why Pelosi is so mad.
Actually Collins said that last week if the House added back in the pork her vote was going to be NO on the conference bill. Dems cannot get this passed without 2 out 3.
Keep those calls going into the three asking them to vote NO on additional pork the House is going to add back in and make them keep their word. Tell them they are being doublecrossed by the RATs.
For the time being quit saying they need kicked out of the Party. After this vote, go after them with guns blaring if they vote YES. If they vote NO, then we need to back off because they woke up to the RATs.
Time for everyone to play the game of politics. You have to know when to back off and now is the time to make calls and don’t yell at the people on the other end of the line. The RATs are doing the job for us with Pelosi going over the top.
All you have to do is remind them about Pelosi and how mad she is at them because she wants everything added back into the bill. That should do it.
Ping!
It matters because if we can prevent even RINOs from voting for this turkey, the dims can't claim bipartisanship. Then whatever happens is 110% Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et al. fault, and I can't think of any better justice.