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Live Thread: Senate Porkulus Vote

Posted on 02/10/2009 7:05:11 AM PST by NoGrayZone

I didn't see a live thread and I just can't watch this debacle alone.

Meagan Kelly on Fox said the FBC filed a lawsuit under the freedom of information act to find out where this "lost" 78 billion dollars went from the first "bailout".

Things are getting a tad bit too interesting for my taste!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhostimulus; endofamerica; looters; obama; porkulus; senate; socialism; stimuluswatch; stopthelooting
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To: waxer1
Well, I have been phoning and email most the morning here. A lot of busy numbers out there. so, maybe we are rattling the cage.

BTW: in regards to your tag line, if you go to my home page, you will see my quote: Give me liberty, or give me something to aim at. I say it like that, because Patton said that no dumb bastard ever won a war by fighting and dieing for their Country; you fight and make the other dumb bastard die for his Country. ;-)

121 posted on 02/10/2009 8:00:58 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: NoGrayZone
Obama said last night that there is no “pork” in the Stimulus bill... Geithner is just about to talk about how “transparent” the new TARP will be....

We're beyond hope folks....

122 posted on 02/10/2009 8:01:26 AM PST by Sleeping Freeper
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Ahhhh, as “transparent” as a brick wall!


123 posted on 02/10/2009 8:03:25 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Just Registered With the Conservative Party...RINO's can kiss my......)
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To: NoGrayZone
My Son just asked that if you hire someone to do a job and they don't do that job, don't you fire them?

Out of the mouths of babes.
124 posted on 02/10/2009 8:03:42 AM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: Cedric

To be fair Minneapolis is doing its best to mirror what killed Milwaukee...LOL!


125 posted on 02/10/2009 8:04:40 AM PST by MNlurker
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To: jennyjenny
-- Are Republican senators going to be allowed to speak during this current "show"? --

Yes. Time is equally divided for this debate. Time is usually, but not always, equally divided.

126 posted on 02/10/2009 8:04:42 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: NoGrayZone

Looks like this is the text within the bill causing concern:

SEC. 9202. INVESTMENT IN HEALTH INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.

(a) In General- The Secretary of Health and Human Services shall invest in the infrastructure necessary to allow for and promote the electronic exchange and use of health information for each individual in the United States consistent with the goals outlined in the Strategic Plan developed by the Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology. Such investment shall include investment in at least the following:

(1) Health information technology architecture that will support the nationwide electronic exchange and use of health information in a secure, private, and accurate manner, including connecting health information exchanges, and which may include updating and implementing the infrastructure necessary within different agencies of the Department of Health and Human Services to support the electronic use and exchange of health information.

(2) Integration of health information technology, including electronic medical records, into the initial and ongoing training of health professionals and others in the healthcare industry who would be instrumental to improving the quality of healthcare through the smooth and accurate electronic use and exchange of health information as determined by the Secretary.

(3) Training on and dissemination of information on best practices to integrate health information technology, including electronic records, into a provider’s delivery of care, including community health centers receiving assistance under section 330 of the Public Health Service Act and providers participating in one or more of the programs under titles XVIII, XIX, and XXI of the Social Security Act (relating to Medicare, Medicaid, and the State Childrens Health Insurance Program).

(4) Infrastructure and tools for the promotion of telemedicine, including coordination among Federal agencies in the promotion of telemedicine.

(5) Promotion of the interoperability of clinical data repositories or registries.

The Secretary shall implement paragraph (3) in coordination with State agencies administering the Medicaid program and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program.

(b) Limitation- None of the funds appropriated to carry out this section may be used to make significant investments in, or provide significant funds for, the acquisition of hardware or software or for the use of an electronic health or medical record, or significant components thereof, unless such investments or funds are for certified products that would permit the full and accurate electronic exchange and use of health information in a medical record, including standards for security, privacy, and quality improvement functions adopted by the Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology.

(c) Report- The Secretary shall annually report to the Committees on Energy and Commerce, on Ways and Means, on Science and Technology, and on Appropriations of the House of Representatives and the Committees on Finance, on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions, and on Appropriations of the Senate on the uses of these funds and their impact on the infrastructure for the electronic exchange and use of health information.


127 posted on 02/10/2009 8:04:48 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: stentorian conservative

The essence of innocence. It’s a damn shame most adults lose it.


128 posted on 02/10/2009 8:05:03 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Just Registered With the Conservative Party...RINO's can kiss my......)
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To: jennyjenny

Don’t hold your breath. I guess if you consider Specter to be a “Republican”... then maybe.


129 posted on 02/10/2009 8:05:56 AM PST by TheBattman (Pray for our country....)
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To: Axeslinger
"I want to know when the hell it is time to USE ammo."

I think that, sir is properly announced as .. "Fire when ready"

130 posted on 02/10/2009 8:06:00 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Whoa. The grey Foxes aren’t gonna like this at all.


131 posted on 02/10/2009 8:07:05 AM PST by CindyDawg
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Stocks down 131.


132 posted on 02/10/2009 8:07:22 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Just Registered With the Conservative Party...RINO's can kiss my......)
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To: Sleeping Freeper
-- Obama said last night that there is no "pork" in the Stimulus bill... --

No earmarks, and that conclusion being based on the technical definition of earmark. Technically, an earmark is a line-item spending project, inserted by an individual senator or representative, and passed without debate. Most earmarks are inserted during the conference committee process.

"Pork" has a much broader definition.

133 posted on 02/10/2009 8:07:29 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cedric

I have faxed, called, and emailed Pryor several times over the last week.

I wasted my breath trying to get in touch with Lincoln. What is interesting - I have had a hard time getting through to Blanche Lincoln’s office, while I have been able to get Pryor’s every time. Blanche’s office always comes back busy...


134 posted on 02/10/2009 8:07:37 AM PST by TheBattman (Pray for our country....)
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To: PhiKapMom

I like your comment PhiKapMom. Robust language. I’m so with you on it. Your type of thinking is what all of us need to adopt. We may have to swallow this porkulus bill but we need to get active, NOW, on how we are going to undo all this garbage in 2012.


135 posted on 02/10/2009 8:10:42 AM PST by bergmeid
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To: TheBattman

I suggest calling /faxing Evan Bayh. He did vote yes to the get rid of funding to Acorn amendment..as did Tester... so maybe he will be a reasonable Democrat on this issue. I think Nelson also voted yes.


136 posted on 02/10/2009 8:11:09 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: CindyDawg

Nope....killing the unborn wasn’t enough, now they’re going after the elderly.

It’s sick.


137 posted on 02/10/2009 8:11:33 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Just Registered With the Conservative Party...RINO's can kiss my......)
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To: Cboldt

Thanks... I stand corrected... he said there were not earmarks... but he didn’t say there was no pork!


138 posted on 02/10/2009 8:12:27 AM PST by Sleeping Freeper
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Hey, the tax cheat is on!!


139 posted on 02/10/2009 8:13:00 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Just Registered With the Conservative Party...RINO's can kiss my......)
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To: TheBattman

Hmmmmmm....

Why do you think that is?


140 posted on 02/10/2009 8:13:49 AM PST by Cedric
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