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Stimulus contains rationed medicine
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | February 09, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 02/10/2009 4:07:33 AM PST by Man50D

The former lieutenant governor of New York is warning that the $50 billion that President Obama expects to spend in the next few years on a nationwide digital health records system for every individual easily could, and probably will, result in rationed medical care.

They said patients might be startled to discover documentation on abortions, mental health problems, impotence, being labeled as a non-compliant patient, lawsuits against doctors and sexual problems could be shared electronically with, perhaps, millions of people.

Sue A. Blevins, president of the Institute for Health Freedom, said unless people have the right to decide "if and when" their health information is shared, there is no real privacy.

WND OBAMA WATCH CENTRAL Stimulus contains rationed medicine 'Safe, effective' treatments soon to be limited by 'cost' Posted: February 09, 2009 9:29 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh © 2009 WorldNetDaily

The former lieutenant governor of New York is warning that the $50 billion that President Obama expects to spend in the next few years on a nationwide digital health records system for every individual easily could, and probably will, result in rationed medical care.

WND recently reported on a little-discussed provision in Obama's plan that would demand every American submit to a government program for electronic medical records without a choice to opt out, raising alarms for privacy advocates.

They said patients might be startled to discover documentation on abortions, mental health problems, impotence, being labeled as a non-compliant patient, lawsuits against doctors and sexual problems could be shared electronically with, perhaps, millions of people.

Sue A. Blevins, president of the Institute for Health Freedom, said unless people have the right to decide "if and when" their health information is shared, there is no real privacy.

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1 posted on 02/10/2009 4:07:33 AM PST by Man50D
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To: Man50D
Killing Old People, Hello AARP

Paging Florida....

2 posted on 02/10/2009 4:09:58 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Man50D
... impotence, being labeled as a non-compliant patient...

Is that better or worse than being a non-compliant taxpayer ?
3 posted on 02/10/2009 4:21:44 AM PST by ComputerGuy (not my real name)
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To: Man50D

And how would they keep up with information? By social security number having all your information on one big database stored at a government facility? Or would you need a digital microchip to store all of this information?


4 posted on 02/10/2009 4:23:35 AM PST by autumnraine
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To: Man50D

This one is very scary. I would contact every senior citizen, health professional and anyone else who cares about your health.


5 posted on 02/10/2009 4:31:37 AM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Man50D

Meet the new medical fascism policies and the National Director of Elder-kill.


6 posted on 02/10/2009 4:46:18 AM PST by paulycy ("I WON! OBEY ME!!!")
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To: Man50D

The Final Solution...


7 posted on 02/10/2009 4:47:29 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Man50D

The *Health Care delivery system* (physicians, hospitals & pharmaceuticals) and *medical care payment system* (Private Insurance companies) were long ago nationalized by the FDA, HHS regulators, through Medicare’s & Medicaid’s use of private insurance contractor/administrators and subsequent control of providers’ fees and practises.

There is no way to unbundle this partnership - it is ripe for Nationalization at every level. Only those physicians who had the cojones to develop VIP concierge services will balk......but they need hospital privileges.

The best medical system in the world is about to go belly up.


8 posted on 02/10/2009 4:50:41 AM PST by sodpoodle (Democrat - means never having to pay your taxes)
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To: ElayneJ

to read later


9 posted on 02/10/2009 4:58:02 AM PST by ElayneJ
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To: Man50D
When does the centralized database discussed on Rush yesterday be potentially used by other agencies?

What I mean about that is the following.

While attending the EAA Airshow in Oshkosh Wisconsin this past August, I struck up a conversation with a Canadian Aviator. He was discussing his health problems that took him out of piloting but he remained an enthusiast. When I quizzed him about flying maybe a new class of aircraft not requiring a medical ( an "LSA" ) or an Ultralight, he commented that his records with the government will also flag his health condition to DMV, and in fact he may also loose his drivers license.

With that said, when does the FAA start cross checking all medical records ( you sign the medical form and risk perjury and fines ) ditto that with the BATF in regards to your 2nd Amendment rights? These are just two agencies I can think of, I am sure they are more where this could occur.

While the "Freep Banned" article in Blomberg by Ms. McCaughey was a wake up call yesterday on talk radio, my fear this is just the beginning.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_mccaughey&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs

10 posted on 02/10/2009 5:01:27 AM PST by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: sodpoodle

The biggest worldly entity to ever promote liberty in the history of the world is about the go belly up. United States of America, that is.


11 posted on 02/10/2009 5:03:59 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: mewzilla; Mrs. B.S. Roberts

It’s not just killing old people. It is the aim of killing ME. Contrast Canadian Health Care with the “mean old HMO” I belong to:
a. End of July—pain from “kidney stone”
b. X-rays an HOUR later, but pain is gone.
c. TWO DAYS LATER someone sees “something on kidney”
d. FOUR Days later. MRI to see what is up
e. ONE HOUR later Ultra sound is free..get across hall
for another ‘test’
f. Phone call two days later. See specialist
g. One week later. specialist says he is scheduling
‘exploratory’.
h. Schedule 9/4/08
i. 9/4/08 “exploratory” results in right kidney gone
‘something’ was VERY early cancer. Study indicate
EXTREMELY AGRESSIVE type of cancer. If sympton
shows, it is ALREADY TOO LATE.
J. Complete recovery, feeling great in total elapsed
time of 5 weeks. Thank you “nasty” American HMO
Anyone prefer Canadian or English system of Health Care?


12 posted on 02/10/2009 5:24:18 AM PST by CaptainAmiigaf ( NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

Anyone who thinks socialized medicine is the cure for what ails them ought to be made to spend some time in a country that has it.


13 posted on 02/10/2009 5:26:05 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

“Complete recovery, feeling great in total elapsed
time of 5 weeks.”

As the daughter of Captain Amiigaf I am personally grateful for the present US medical system. As a further note, about 5 years ago my friend, who was orginally from England, got the terrible news that her dad (still in England) needed an emergency cardiac by-pass operation. He waited 5 months for that emergency surgery. HE DIED WAITING and my friend flew home to her former country to bury her dad.

My sisters and I are glad our dad is healthy and well.

Let’s keep Zero et al out of our medical decisions and the medical decisions of our doctors!


14 posted on 02/10/2009 5:43:04 AM PST by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: Man50D
Sue A. Blevins, president of the Institute for Health Freedom, said unless people have the right to decide "if and when" their health information is shared, there is no real privacy.
Another WTF from WND. Has Sue A. Blevins never heard of HIPAA? Are they repealing it or something?
15 posted on 02/10/2009 5:43:36 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...
Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.


16 posted on 02/10/2009 6:20:46 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Man50D

Fox News talking about this right now. Megan Kelly interviewing Sen. Specter. He’s talking out both sides of his mouth.


17 posted on 02/10/2009 6:48:38 AM PST by Marmolade
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To: paulycy

The projections for boomers soon to be making demands on Medicare and the currrent illegals abusing Medicaid are the socialists’ impetus for this “Grab Bag” effort.

The healthy, working young will be forced to pick up the Socialized Medicine tab from payroll taxes. Employers will just send previous private health insurance premiums to the Federal gubmint.

Then watch the reduction of dental & vision care options, “life extending” medical care, more federally funded abortions and a prohibition on ‘heroic measures’ to save lives that are deemed ‘of no value’ by government bureaucrats.

Of course, the “wheeler dealer” scooter purveyors will love it! Scooters for everyone - the new form of transportation.


18 posted on 02/10/2009 6:55:33 AM PST by sodpoodle (Democrat - means never having to pay your taxes)
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To: sodpoodle

Yes. A three-bagger! Gets rid of unproductive old people, fixes medicare funding and solves social security.

The 2009 version of The Final Solution.


19 posted on 02/10/2009 6:59:10 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: sodpoodle
a prohibition on ‘heroic measures’ to save lives that are deemed ‘of no value’ by government bureaucrats.

Make that a prohibition on ANY measures to save lives of no perceived value to the State.

20 posted on 02/10/2009 7:19:24 AM PST by paulycy ("I WON! OBEY ME!!!")
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