Britain has produced unteachable 'uber-chavs'

The Telegraph ^ | 2/9/2009 | Nick Britten

[bruinbirdman]

Ralph Surman, a national executive member of the Association of Teacher and Lecturers, said a significant number of young people who were brought up by single mothers in the 1980s are now doing nothing with their lives, have no work ethic, few social skills and cause higher crime rates.

Mr Surman, a deputy head of Cantrell Primary and Nursery School in Bulwell, Nottingham, said: "We must talk about a class of uber-chavs. They are not doing anything productive and are costing taxpayers a fortune.

"It is very difficult, almost impossible, to take these people now and provide basic social and work ethic skills.

"The offspring of the first big generation of single mothers were children in the 1980s. Now they are adults with their own children and the problems are leading to higher crime rates and low participation in the labour force."

He spoke after figures obtained by the Conservatives showed the number of 18 to 24-year-olds classed as Neet - young people not in education, employment or training - has soared over the last five years.

Unemployment rates among 20-year-olds alone has rocketed by almost 50 per cent since 2003.

David Willetts, Conservative shadow skills secretary, who obtained the figures following a Parliamentary question, said: "The rise is vivid evidence of the deep problems in our education and training system.

"People are dropping out once school finishes because they can't find the right opportunities. From 18 onwards, the position is especially bad."

The number of 18 to 24-year-olds Neets increased from 590,000 to 730,000 over the last five years. Numbers increased by 38,000 to 113,000, figures show.

Mr Surman's comments were criticised by David Mellen, head of education at Nottingham City Council, who said the term "uber-chav" demonises young people and is damaging.

[Kimmers]

From the reports we get out of England is there any reason to do anything over there?

[LostInBayport]

I have heard of many studies showing that children brought up in other than intact two parent households are more prone to various problems. This seems to confirm that single parenting is not in the best interest of the children, and that government policies should discourage it.

Gasp...such radical views! When Ann Coulter said just this on The View, even Elizabeth Hasselbeck joined the three rejects from Frankenstein's harem that she co-hosts the show with to shout Ann down.

[reg45]

So, what’s the difference between a “chav” and a “yob”.

[Don Corleone]

Verifying what Ann Coulter has said in her new book.

[Army Air Corps]

Worse than a yob. The Scottish equivalent to the Chav is the Ned.

[Mamzelle]

Thanks for the wikis. Like so much underworld slang (and theatre and homosexual slang as well) this word has its origins in Gypsy. For the PC, that's Romany, an Indic language related to Sanscrit.

"Shiv" for knife, "punch" from the word for five fingers, or five juices.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

That is shocking.

The Flynn Effect which has been pretty much a world wide consistent says that they should be at least 21 points higher.

[Dr.Zoidberg]

You’ve got me, I guess it’s like the difference between a Goth kid and an Emo.

[Tijeras_Slim]

So, what’s the difference between a “chav” and a “yob”.

Good question. When Mad Ivan was still here I once asked him what the difference between a "wit" and a "wag" was. Those crazy British.

[Mamzelle]

See #26.

May be right about "chavo" except that the Spanish have many more Gypsies than the Brits, and they may well have taken the word from them.

[CriticalJ]

Good new slang words to incorporate in my daily vocabulary.

[2banana]

I have read three straight articles from the telegraph with a conservative slant...what gives?

[Clemenza]

Most of these people are to the far left of the bell curve. Blame the British welfare state for letting these morons reproduce.

[buccaneer81]

He’ll soon be out of a job for committing a grave offense in Britain: Telling the truth.

[Dr.Zoidberg]

I have read three straight articles from the telegraph with a conservative slant...what gives?

The regular writers are all passed out stinking drunk under their desks and the cleaning lady decided to have some fun?

[Brilliant]

With the financial system crumbling, we may see an exodus from Britain. Britain is heavily dependent upon the London financial industry.

[pogo101]

I don’t suppose the UK could cap the number of total years an able-bodied person can live on the dole, at, say, 2 to 3? lifetime?

Nahhh.

[britemp]

‘The British must have more words for thugs and delinquents than any other nationality.’

We have more words for just about everything than any other nationality. That is the beauty of the English language and the ability of the British to exploit its flexibility and creativity.

Although I don’t doubt your suggested origins of the term ‘chav’, it is now popularly held to be an acronym, Council House And Violent. The direct American equivalent is of course ‘white trash’.

[bruinbirdman]

"The leftists in the UK wanted to wipe out working class whites."

The long term objective of the commies is to "destroy the culture" that supports capitalism.

The Frankfurt School came to this conclusion in the 1930's.

yitbos

[pfflier]

Sounds like the gangbangers in our city. Making babies and buying NBA clothes while spray painting their graffitti.