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Democrats kill McCain's alternative stimulus plan
AP ^ | 2009-02-05

Posted on 02/05/2009 3:18:31 PM PST by rabscuttle385

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate has killed an alternative economic stimulus plan by Sen. John McCain that would have cut income and payroll taxes but spent far less than President Obama's plan.

The party-line 57-40 vote against McCain's $421 billion plan came Thursday as a group of moderate Democrats and Republicans struggled to cut up to $100 billion from Obama's version.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 111th; betrayal; democratcongress; democrats; gopstimulus; karma; maverickrino; mccain; mccaintruthfile; owned; pwn3d; senate; stimulus; stimuluswatch; taxes; ussenate
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To: MetaThought
I really wish people would stop attacking McCain & Lindsey Graham. They’re finally doing the right thing, and you guys are still attacking them.

The right thing? The RIGHT Thing? The trillion dollar Porkulus needs to be reduced by trillion and a half before it even starts to approach the "right thing".

$100B one way or the other is chump change. All this imaginary money coming off the printing presses will do is further endanger us, drive us further in debt, and further guarantee runaway inflation sometime in the near future.

The "right thing", my a$$.

41 posted on 02/05/2009 4:23:15 PM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: rabscuttle385; Liz; AT7Saluki; writer33

$421 BILLION isn’t enough! Maybe the gang of 14 will vote no this time around.


42 posted on 02/05/2009 4:29:01 PM PST by Libloather (February is Liberal, Leftist, Marxist Awareness Month.)
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To: rabscuttle385
... as a group of moderate Democrats and Republicans struggled to cut up to $100 billion from Obama's version.

A HUNDRED BILLION??? OUT OF OVER NINE HUNDRED BILLION???

What the hell is the point of that? If you won't stand for $900 billion worth of bad ideas, why in heaven's name would anybody support $800 billion worth of bad ideas?

43 posted on 02/05/2009 4:33:21 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Fred

No, It has already passed the house, where not one republican voted for it, and even a handful of rats voted against it


44 posted on 02/05/2009 4:36:18 PM PST by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain is good at getting shot down.


45 posted on 02/05/2009 4:37:14 PM PST by GBA
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To: roamer_1

Gotta fight it one issue at a time.

Pick and attack the worst. Lather, rinse, repeat.


46 posted on 02/05/2009 4:40:36 PM PST by MetaThought
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain augers in another one ...

If he had opposed the bailout back in October, he would have won the election. But he's a dope.

47 posted on 02/05/2009 4:44:32 PM PST by Grim
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To: rabscuttle385

Act II, Scene III. This is all leading into a Sunday talking head show finale and watching the usual suspects slap each other on the back for their bi-partisanship heroics.


48 posted on 02/05/2009 4:50:33 PM PST by TADSLOS (McCain always has a job as Obama's Butt Boy when he loses his seat in 2010)
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To: MetaThought
Gotta fight it one issue at a time.

No. Tell the people the TRUTH. Then step back and let the Democrats own it if they will (which they won't). This sort of half-a$$ed compromising is precisely what lends cover to those who would cave in for "pragmatism" and "bipartisanship", when in reality, it is the death knell of our Republic.

McCain's position on the bailout did exactly the same thing- offering cover for those who would cave, instead of standing with the House Republicans, who_were_right.

What purpose is there for the "opposition" if it is not to oppose the tyranny of the ruling party, especially when it is so blatantly wrong in it's direction?

49 posted on 02/05/2009 5:01:03 PM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: rabscuttle385

His amendment needs to cut up to 1 trillion from the porkulus bill.


50 posted on 02/05/2009 5:06:04 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: roamer_1

Unfortunately, the truth does not fit into bite-sized chunks.

Anyway, have you seen this video of Lindsey Graham attacking the stimulus ?

http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/05/scaring-people-is-not-leadership/


51 posted on 02/05/2009 5:22:56 PM PST by MetaThought
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To: rabscuttle385

Screw the ‘Rats and their calls for Republican support of Porkulus. These idiots richly deserve to twist in the wind.


52 posted on 02/05/2009 5:40:01 PM PST by Post Toasties (Conservatives allow the guilty to be executed but Lefties insist that the innocent be executed.)
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To: MetaThought
Unfortunately, the truth does not fit into bite-sized chunks.

So support the lie? How absurd.

Anyway, have you seen this video of Lindsey Graham attacking the stimulus ?

So what? He stands at his master's beck and call, and McCain's bill begins with the very same false premise that the government can stimulate the economy by printing more money, or establishing more debt.

You accept that as the "right thing", somehow. I see it as the same damnable lie the Democrats are claiming, and exactly the same things that Bush did.

The argument shifts to how much, and where to spend it, rather than where it belongs, which is that it should not be spent at all. In fact, massive reductions in taxes and regulations should be enacted on a scale never before seen. That is what would help stimulate this economy, and it is the only thing that would help.

Anything else the Republicans sign onto is bound to fail, and they will own it, right along with their Democrat counterparts. And in doing so, they provide no clear difference in ideology for the people to decide between. Just two levels of the same twisted thinking.

53 posted on 02/05/2009 5:59:35 PM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I see that “reaching across the isle” bidness is working out just fine for the retarded “maverick”...


54 posted on 02/05/2009 6:45:32 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (To hell with the RINO party!)
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To: antiRepublicrat
The necessary self-correction is painful, and pain in the populace doesn't get Obama re-elected. We want to have our party, but don't want to have to deal with the hangover.

Well said...the most succinct explanation of the problem with Gov't meddling in the markets I have seen.

55 posted on 02/05/2009 6:52:23 PM PST by JrsyJack (Oh dem golden slippers!!)
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To: MetaThought

“They’re finally doing the right thing”

Talk about moral relativism.


56 posted on 02/05/2009 6:57:12 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: MetaThought

“Pick and attack the worst. Lather, rinse, repeat.”

Absolute nonsensical BS.


57 posted on 02/05/2009 6:58:25 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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