Posted on 02/04/2009 8:38:43 AM PST by pobeda1945
I remember the ‘think tanks’ that claimed for fifteen years the M1A1 Abrams Main Battle Tank was ‘inferior’ to the T-72’s. They said effective kill ranges were less than 1,500 yards, yada yada yada.
Then we saw what took place in the first Gulf War, and afterwards duly noted 1)We had tank kills up to approaching 4,000 yards and 2) It was tougher at the training center against the Op For.
I don’t take this seriously as a result.
as long as all the good secrets are hidden from the whitehouse, we’ll be OK
Head in sand BUMP
Well yeah, just look at the awesome performance of the Russian air defense system in Syria. When the American jets from Israel tried to take out the nuclear weapons production facility, the Russian air defense system well, uh. . .
wait, um, never mind.
Well, the budget for 700 F-22’s now looks cheap compared to Obama’s bailout bill. But at best it would buy us a decade, then these Russian/Chinese systems would evolve far enough to beat the F-22, also. Manned fighters are as dead as the battleship in 1941 - it’s just going to take a tragic battle outcome to prove it to a certain caste of knuckleheads. The future is UAVs, satellites, and cyberwars conducted from bunkers deep beneath Nevads and Colorado.
Weapons systems and countermeasures are in a neverending game of leap-frog. Always have been and always will.
Didn't the Syrians employ these systems when the Israelis flew clear across their country and took out TWO strategic assets.
I repeat--the Israelis flew clear across their country
Russian junk. This article is total BS.
>> Well, the budget for 700 F-22s now looks cheap compared to Obamas bailout bill.
...and defense spending actually IS economic stimulus, unlike the welfare pork that now comprises the so-called “bailout bill”.
What’s more, you can demand that defense funds be spent in the USA, without so directly pissing off the rest of world.
We ought to be putting people back to work not only on more fighters, but also on more advanced missile systems.
These folks need to google the term “disinformation”.
Colonel, USAFR
Yes, it is.
Thank you for that Badeye, also remember the militating against the Bradley Fighting Vehicle and a number of other arms and to top it off, people like John F’n Kerry were the ones trying to defeat the development of those very vehicles and arms.
Our domestic enemy really needs to be dealt with. God bless our loyal, outstanding troops wherever they are around the world.
Nobody in the world can approach the combined skill of the US military in terms of using their weapons to their full potential. Nobody else trains like we train; they can't afford it.
You saw what took place in a war with an untrained unmotivated army using the export version of old Soviet tanks. It would have been a different different fight if those had been Russian troops.
Hmmm, Euro-weenies should have thought of that when they were splurging on their economy-busting social programs while snubbing their noses at us.
Ironic, huh?
What has come to the forefront lately is the need for infantry and counter insurgency-just like the Philippines at the turn of the 20th Century. Didn't the pundits say at one time push button war would take over and we wouldn't need ground troops?
The A-10, also written off, is proving valuable. Close air support has returned.
I say our future military is more like carrying a bag of golf clubs. You need to have more than one club.
Every time the air superiority fighter has been “over” the need comes right back again. The F-15 has been boss for 30 years. I say the F-22 will probably be the boss for 30 more. Let's not kill it.
The “experts” really inflated the capabilities of the older Soviet era fighter, so I’m not really going to panic yet. Iraq had a pretty extensive integrated air defense system too. Right up until about a week after the start of Desert Storm.
The players include a mini fighter mafia, a guy that runs a company that wants to upgrade and extend the life on the F-111's, and a bunch of politicians on both sides.
Free world fighter aviation definitely faces challenges of age, funding, and emerging threats, but this report should be taken with a grain of salt.
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