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Civilian Expeditionary Workforce (DoD Directive 1404.10)
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Posted on 01/31/2009 7:28:00 AM PST by ronnyquest

Have a look at DoD Directive 1404.10:

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/140410p.pdf

Is this where Chairman Obama's mysterious 600,000 new jobs will be created? Does this remind anyone else of Germany in the first half of the 20th Century? Are we going to see brown shirts and black armbands in the near future?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 140410; agenda; bho2009; bho44; bhodod; cicobama; democrats; directive; dod; economy; obama
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1 posted on 01/31/2009 7:28:01 AM PST by ronnyquest
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To: ronnyquest
Nah, this has been around for years (talking about civilians accompanying the military on operations).
2 posted on 01/31/2009 7:31:11 AM PST by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: ronnyquest

ONe Military sworn to defend the Constitution.

One Military sworn to defend ......... ADOLF HITLER

Are their shirts going to be Brown, RED, or Hussein BLUE??

Got to admit tho .. the HUSSEIN CIRCLE is much more asthetically pleasing than the SWASTIKA.

GOD HELP US ALL!!


3 posted on 01/31/2009 7:31:23 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (MULLAH HUSSEIN - which part of "Congress shall make no Law" - do you NOT UNDERSTAND??)
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To: ronnyquest
Expeditionary forces are deployed outside of the US. This is not anything like the Brown Shirts of Nazi Germany...more like the Peace Corps on steroids.

Congress will have to pass a law over-ruling posse comitatus before they can deploy military within the US.

Not time to worry...yet.
4 posted on 01/31/2009 7:35:36 AM PST by Sudetenland (Those diplomats serve best, who serve as cannon fodder to protect our troops!)
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To: ronnyquest
Could be:

4. POLICY. It is DoD policy to:

a. Rely on a mix of capable military members and DoD civilian employees to meet DoD global national security mission requirements. DoD civilian employees are an integral part of the Total Force. They serve in a variety of positions, provide essential capabilities and, where appropriate for civilians to do so, support mission requirements such as combat, contingencies, emergency operations; humanitarian and civic assistance activities; disaster relief; restoration of order; drug interdiction; and stability operations of the Department of Defense, herein collectively referred to as “expeditionary requirements.”

5 posted on 01/31/2009 7:37:25 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: ronnyquest
Here's a previous version http://biotech.law.lsu.edu/blaw/dodd/corres/pdf/d140410_041092/d140410p.pdf. I haven't compared the two version to see what was changed.

It looks like it is just the rules for deploying civilian DoD employee to unpleasant places. Congratulations, bureaucrat, your paper handling skills are needed in Baghdad.

6 posted on 01/31/2009 7:39:49 AM PST by KarlInOhio (On 9/11 Israel mourned with us while the Palestinians danced in the streets. Who should we support?)
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To: Sudetenland

“Not time to worry...yet.”

I beg to differ...

When he spoke at the DNC, some years back, we said “Not time to worry...yet.”

When he announced his candidacy, we said “Not time to worry...yet.”

As he outlined his political platform, we said “Not time to worry...yet.”

When he won the DhimmiRat nomination, we said “Not time to worry...yet.”

When he was elected, we said “Not time to worry...yet.”

When he announced the Porkumongous Spending bill we said “Not time to worry...yet.”

So....WHEN IS IT TIME TO WORRY?

IMO, It’s well past time to worry. We should be acting. We should be shouting to the rafters that this guy is an abomonation, and we are living in an Obamanation. His free pass with the fawning MSM is driving his image and his ‘brand’ into the political marketplace with such force that we may never recover in our present form.

Yep, it’s time to worry! It’s time to be sore afraid of the potential for damage that this pretender and his minions can force on the country.

It’s time to refresh the tree of Liberty, IMO.


7 posted on 01/31/2009 7:46:32 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: ronnyquest
he's not wasting any time in getting his private army up and running

“c. Supersedes any conflicting portions of other DoD issuances...

“employees to meet DoD
global national security mission requirements.”

“SUPERCEDES”? the military?

“GLOBAL” - in line with the UN dictates ready to implement, taking away our National Sovereignty and putting the U.S. AND out military under the UN - which is run by every podunk little dictator country...and the UN will take your guns...

Don't say he didn't warn you. Don't say we didn't try to spread this...if you were breathing, you have no excuse not to have heard this and spread the word.

Hear it in his own words. The only thing we have left to ask now is: “Will his private army wear brown shirts or ‘bama blue?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df2p6867_pw

and if that doesn't strike a bell, maybe this one will

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xCujfg5w5w&feature=related Any guesses as to just who will make up the vast majority of that army of 600,000? I think there are going to be a lot of Rats in DC that are also going to wake up - too late - to find they've been had...the new regime is not going to be led by them. They have merely served as usefull idiots as a means to the end. Who will really be in power? dare one say it?

8 posted on 01/31/2009 7:53:19 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: PubliusMM

Potential for damage? Have you been paying attention to how quickly and completely this guy and his regime have been moving to consolidate power and obstruct liberty?

Time to refresh the tree, indeed!

Funny thing, though, he told us during the campaign and after his assumption of power that he wanted a “civilian” defense force “equal in power to the military.” And the sheeple cheered. They cheered! How liberty dies...


9 posted on 01/31/2009 7:57:09 AM PST by ronnyquest ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ronnyquest
Is this where Chairman Obama's mysterious 600,000 new jobs will be created? Does this remind anyone else of Germany in the first half of the 20th Century? Are we going to see brown shirts and black armbands in the near future?

"No", "no", and "who knows".

Lots of DoD civilian employees are deployed to war zones and they are NOT paper pushers or Obama lackeys.

Quite the contrary, they deserve your respect as much as any uniformed warfighter, because they serve in and support exactly the same mission.

How would you like if your boss said "I need volunteers to [survey, validate, audit] our [munitions, arms, billeting, security] in [Iraq, Afghanistan] for three months, and you're it. You'll be on the move constantly around the country and you'll always be in combat zones, so you can request a personal firearm if you choose."

As a contractor I deployed and redeployed with dozens of DoD civilian employees right along with the reservists and National Guard.

The DoD civvies didn't get paid much, they didn't have any real choice to go or not, and they were sent out to open combat operations constantly.

By the way, the DoD Directive above seems merely to update codify laws and procedures pertaining to the DoD civilian workforce.

I see nothing inherently sinister or worrisome about it.

10 posted on 01/31/2009 8:00:07 AM PST by angkor
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To: Sudetenland
"Congress will have to pass a law over-ruling posse comitatus before they can deploy military within the US."
 
Popular belief, but one confounded by historical fact.
 
Corporatism == Collectivism == Communism
 
All of the above subjugate the individual for the benefit of the collective hive.
 
Whereas Individualism == Americanism == "TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, Governments are instituted among men".

11 posted on 01/31/2009 8:01:12 AM PST by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: KarlInOhio

There are plenty of DoD civilians that are not paper pushers....but even then, procurement and logistical support is essential.


12 posted on 01/31/2009 8:04:35 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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To: maine-iac7; ronnyquest

You’re off base. This entire thread is wayyyyyy over the top.

Must be Saturday morning paranoia time on FR, because there are many of these kooky posts this morning.

“Supercede” is the common term used in the legal arena (such as DoD Directives) to formally state that (for example) “this document supercedes what was said in previous Directives and is now the current one.”

There’s nothing ominous or weird about it.

As for “employees to meet DoD global national security mission requirements,” neither is that statement ominous or in any way notable.

Rather it’s simply a way of highlighting that DoD civilian employees might be (and have been and are currently) called upon to serve anywhere in the world if they are needs and qualified to do so.

It’s that simple.

Period.


13 posted on 01/31/2009 8:07:31 AM PST by angkor
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To: angkor

I know full well about DoD civilians deploying with, following, and in advance of military operations.

For instance, they deployed with us for a variety of missions in Bosnia.

They also deployed with us in Southeast Asia for the purpose of finding and verifying remains left from the Vietnam Conflict.

DoD civilians generally do deserve respect as members of the combined force in an operation. However, surveyors and auditors are not our chief concern here.


14 posted on 01/31/2009 8:08:20 AM PST by ronnyquest ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: gwilhelm56
Got to admit tho .. the HUSSEIN CIRCLE is much more aesthetically pleasing than the SWASTIKA.


Anyone notice that Pepsi changed their logo? It sort of reminds me of some other logo. Let me see... I'll think of it in minute.

15 posted on 01/31/2009 8:11:42 AM PST by BubbaBasher (This space available for a bailout.)
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To: angkor
Lots of DoD civilian employees are deployed to war zones and they are NOT paper pushers or Obama lackeys.

Then why does Obama need an expiditionary force of civilians?

16 posted on 01/31/2009 8:11:53 AM PST by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance: Will Rogers)
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To: Eagle Eye

>>>>> There are plenty of DoD civilians that are not paper pushers....but even then, procurement and logistical support is essential. <<<<<<

As you can see I’m also trying to being some sanity to this otherwise insane thread.

I agree with you that DoD employees are important no matter what their role. And they are almost uniquely called to serve in combat zones unlike almost all other “government employees.”

The tubby DoD auditor who shuttles from Baghdad to Mosul to Balad has a dangerous job nearly equal any uniformed soldier in the AOR.


17 posted on 01/31/2009 8:13:14 AM PST by angkor
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To: ronnyquest

>>>>> However, surveyors and auditors are not our chief concern here. <<<<<<

OK. Then what is your “chief concern here”?

I read/skimmed the Directive and saw nothing ominous or even very interesting.


18 posted on 01/31/2009 8:16:09 AM PST by angkor
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To: Know et al

>>>>>> Then why does Obama need an expiditionary force of civilians? <<<<<<

The same reason George W. Bush had one.

To support the military and warfighting mission.

You’re barking up the wrong tree.


19 posted on 01/31/2009 8:17:25 AM PST by angkor
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To: angkor

I’ve already stated my concerns, as have others. The subject of this thread and my original statements ought to be enough. If that was not plain enough for you, then nothing else I type will stir you to concern.

However, it’s apparently not time to worry, so I won’t; it’s just Saturday morning paranoia time. Right? You be sure and let us know when we should worry about Chairman Obama’s policies. Until then, I guess it’s Miller Time, right? Or Kool-Aid. Probably Kool-Aid.

Perhaps, though, you could explain why a new directive is needed to supercede the old one. DoD civilians needing to push some papers? A mere policy change? Clarifying the language of an order that apparently worked?


20 posted on 01/31/2009 8:35:17 AM PST by ronnyquest ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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