Iran says Obama's offer to talk shows US failure

Breitbart.com ^ | 01.31.09

[Perdogg]

US President Barack Obama's offer to talk to Iran shows that America's policy of "domination" has failed, the government spokesman said on Saturday.

"This request means Western ideology has become passive, that capitalist thought and the system of domination have failed," Gholam Hossein Elham was quoted as saying by the Mehr news agency.

"Negotiation is secondary, the main issue is that there is no way but for (the United States) to change," he added.

After nearly three decades of severed ties, Obama said shortly after taking office this month that he is willing to extend a diplomatic hand to Tehran if the Islamic republic is ready to "unclench its fist".

[RetiredArmy]

What it shows is the Marxist Obama caved to the terrorists.

[Danae]

I don’t think he will make it through 4 years, he has FAR too many legal issues just waiting to pop out on him. Then there is the DISASTER he is creating with his sisters and brothers in congress. Nope, he is done in 4 at the very least, so many Democrats disappointed.

[doug from upland]

We just inaugurated Neville Chamberlain on steroids.

[Marine_Uncle]

Iran is slowly starving to death. They have lost so much in support of growing numbers of people. Hardly 20% at most of Iranians even know what the revolution was all about.
Increasing numbers of Iranians are seeing the Mullah controlled government for what it is. The bearded fat cats stay healthy and well feed, while there is no work for the masses, and less gasoline and what used to be easy to get western goods. The threat is constantly over them that foreign nations may bomb their nuclear facilities into dust. Their very lives are controlled by the revolutionary guard.
The Mullahs fear the military could turn against them and their IRGC.
All is not right within the Mullah bureaucracy. Mahmoud Ahmadinejah may find his ass out on the street in due time.
With the low price of oil they are really going under fast.
So all they have is the standard bravado to go on. The vast number of people probably cringed each time the few shoot their mouths off.
It will be interesting to see how much Russia and China are willing to go out on a limb at this point in their continued protection of a failing state.

[Perdogg]

Russia will protect a lucrative arms client and China will protect an source of future oil and an arms client.

[Marine_Uncle]

Of course I agree with you. But it will be interesting to see if Israel does decide to go in with conventional weapons and destroy as much of Iran's above ground facilities as possible, what the two will do. We can look back and see how the Russians exited in quite a hurry when OIFII started. Even giving Saddam such foolish hints that we would bring in our main force through Jordan, when they fully understood we had no forces in the Med built up to do such a thing.
And what will be most surprising to me is if Israel decides to expend it's air forces in such a long distance endeavor. I had for the past few years argued against their potential for such a long distant mission which would have to be very involved, air support, taking out so much AAA/SAM sites and Iran's air force just to get at a point where they then could perform rather large bomb runs etc..
Their air force make up is not designed for long distant missions. But never the less. If Bibi takes the helm, he made it clear he will end the Iranian nuclear weapon program one way or another. And they can't use their nuclear arsenal. It is against their nature to do a nuclear first strike. And a lot of Iranians would go up in a poof close to all the facilities scattered in various locations.
I for one continue to roll these things through my mind and come up with a blank as to just what Israel might be able to achieve. Surely we are not going to see the US perform any air strikes on Iran for at least four years, unless for some reason Iran could assemble a few working atomic weapons and plant them in Israeli cities unnoticed, which we would consider rather ridiculous to consider.
Hopefully the Iranian peoples will finally reach a breaking point and go after the Mullahs. The IRGC just may fall apart if this happened, and let a military group set up a temporary government. Will young men kill their brothers and fathers for the Mullah. Of course I think out loud and you should not feel obligated to respond in kind. Just some thoughts I believe are not far off the mark in general terms.

[My hearts in London - Everett]

Nah, there’s not enough room for his ears anyway! hehe

[PGalt]

Thanks very much for posting. Yeah, I saw that comment and I just revisited the rest of the comments.

Did you happen to see Eastview’s post on page 2...here...

In another JW story (can’t find it now), another commenter posted a link to a very disturbing document published by the US Muslim-Engagement Project at http://www.usmuslimengagement.org. On the right of the page there is a link to a document titled “Changing Course: A New Direction for U.S. Relations With the Muslim World.” The Project includes the leadership group members Madeleine Albright, Richard Armitage and Ziad Asali, and many others, such as Ingrid Matson, who are well known to JW readers.

This document, published in January 2007, describes a world view of Islam based on economic privation and Western aggression as the principal causes of Muslim ailments, and is completely void of any of the religious factors JW readers are familiar with. It embraces many of the Leftist concepts of Muslims as victims so beloved by the U.N. and our State Department — and uses some of the same language Obama has used in his recent statements.

I am left to wonder if this is the blueprint Obama is using for his new approach to the ME. If so, then one might expect to see those members of the leadership group assume increasingly important roles in Obama’s reach to the Muslim world.

Highly recommended, but also very disturbing, reading for a hint of possible things to come. Essential reading for those who take Sun-Tzu’s advice to heart: Know your enemy.

...VERY disturbing if you know some of the players featured at that link. Many thanks to jihadwatch poster Eastview!

[Cvengr]

Once again, Obama has clutched a US defeat out of the jaws of an American victory.

[PGalt]

OOPS...I forgot to add the link to page 2 at JW’s commentaries in post #148

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024631.php#idc-ctools

Thanks to every poster. Very good thread.

[BlackjackPershing]

No, all it means is that the Jimma Carter-style apeasement fo the 70s has reared its head and we’re headed down the road to socialist doom.

[shoutingandpointing]

“The moozies do not take kindly to their own who deny abandon the religion of pieces.”

The moozies do not take kindly to their own who deny and abandon the religion of FECES.”

THERE, I FIXED YOUR TYPO!!

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Gee, Fighter@heart, I do not know how I managed to leave out that "and." (/s) ;) Thanks! LOL

[Bob from De]

Everything will be fixed when Hussein The Magnificent cuts the military budget by 30%or so,cancels anti-missile defense systems and plans,eliminates all R and D on weapons systems and allows every homosexual in the country to openly join the military.

[manc]

this statement is what we have been saying.

phony gets in and we will look and eventually will be weak.

Maybe those in the obama cult will actually wake up and realise that they have been screwed over and taken for suckers

[manc]

phony was primed for this job.

Ayers amongst others knew that their violence was never going to win so eventually he quit his violence and went looking for an idiot.
Hence here come obama, lost, confused to who he really is and his identity

Ayers and others take the young fool under their wing and primed him for the presidency while getting their shock troops like ACORN ready.

This was all planned years ago.

George soros is running this country, obama is the puppet and the troops are like ACORN, move on , daily kos etc

[rlmorel]

I read that at Jihadwatch, and it MADE MY BLOOD BOIL.

Apologize for past misdeeds? I got yer apology right here for 1979...

[CRBDeuce]

Liberals are far too ignorant, naive, and foolish to be in charge of anything.

That's why they make such good union 'leaders', and community 'organizers'(read activists). The 'clueless' gene precludes their understanding their own limitations....or as Reagan said, "it isn't that liberals don't know anything, it's just that they know so much that isn't so"

[manc]

Carter showed weakness and Iran took advantage
Reagan came in and Iran backed down.
Then Clinton pulled out of Somalia (?where we should have never been) and we were made to look weak

now Bush comes and shows strength, The islamic nuts hated it but now Bush is gone and phony is on now our enemies are at it again.

Even a blind man can see that if you shows weakness to these islamic nuts then they will take advantage. They actually respect strength

[CRBDeuce]

Carter on steroids...Carter times Clinton times Marx...Carter almighty, Carter beyond Carter, Carter times ten to the fifth power, it takes him a week and a half to look as bad as Carter did after two years.

Methinks you've hit this one out of the park! Carter must be ecstatic to see that he has a chance of becoming #2 on the top 10 worst Presidents list in his own lifetime!

[R0CK3T]

Barry’s hard at work putting the O back in American Foreign Policy...

Open season on Americans.

Now that change you can count on.

All that remains to bring this point home is the inevitable TEST that is no doubt well on its way.

You’d have to be blind and complete devoid of logical thought to NOT see this coming.

Get ready.