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Angry senator wants pay cap on Wall Street 'idiots'
CNN ^ | 1/30/2009 | CNN

Posted on 01/30/2009 11:55:19 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- One day after President Barack Obama ripped Wall Street executives for their "shameful" decision to hand out $18 billion in bonuses in 2008, Congress may finally have had enough.

An angry U.S. senator introduced legislation Friday to cap compensation for employees of any company that accepts federal bailout money. Under the terms of a bill introduced by Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Missouri, no employee would be allowed to make more than the president of the United States.

Obama's current annual salary is $400,000.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: 111th; bailout; bho2009; democratcongress; democrats; economy; mccaskill
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To: Red in Blue PA

The total amount of bonuses on Wall Street was $34 billion in 2006 and now it is $19 billion. Why?


181 posted on 01/30/2009 1:05:17 PM PST by kabar
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To: meyer

The Bush administration spent “only” $350 billion of the $700 billion. And if you recall, most of the the Reps in the House voted against the bill.


182 posted on 01/30/2009 1:08:08 PM PST by kabar
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To: coon2000
On Ford, yes, I am afraid that they will be punished for trying to do things the right way

Indeed...too many here don't see what's coming and don't realize the trap they're falling into.

This argument "it's our money, we get to tell them how to spend it" was a set up from the get go.

All in all, a brilliant plan. And then to install 0 to head it all up. An amazing political coup that will go down in the history books.

Wake up people!! (especially you Red)

183 posted on 01/30/2009 1:08:54 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to muzzies, not Rush)
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To: kabar

kabar,

The point of a bonus is to reward exceptional results. If a company is insolvent it should fail. But in this case they went to the government and begged for money. The government, having no money of their own said fine, we will steal it from all Americans and give it to you. If they will not willingly give us their money we will imprison them or kill them. Then the executives at the company who now have my money, your money, my childrens money, my future grand childrens money and my future great grandchildrens money say, “how great we got the government to steal all of that money! We all deserve bonuses!” Now the government says, “we stole that money, so we will tell you how to spend it”.

As far as I am concerned, the money is gone. It is pretty stupid though, giving out huge bonuses so soon after insolvency. I guess that is why they went insolvent to begin with.


184 posted on 01/30/2009 1:10:10 PM PST by coon2000
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To: Red in Blue PA

The government is free to attach whatever strings it wants to additional bailouts, but it would be silly and counterproductive to force this on banks retroactively. Giving taxpayer money to Bank of America and THEN helping kill the company by motivating its most aggressive producers to leave B of A plays well to the masses, but actually wastes the money they’ve already invested.


185 posted on 01/30/2009 1:10:51 PM PST by utahagen
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To: Red in Blue PA; kabar; All
why did you not answer Kabar’s question, apparently you don't want anyone on wall street to have earned a bonus???
186 posted on 01/30/2009 1:12:32 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: kabar

>>Reps in the House voted against the bill.

So what.

Bush SIGNED the bill, partnering with Pelosi and Reid, Paulson and Bernanke.

But take heart, if you think these bankers are not gonna get their fat checks, you’re wrong.

What a Legacy.


187 posted on 01/30/2009 1:12:47 PM PST by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Get into bed with government-wakeup a whore. Whore’s ‘get told’ and like it, it’s as simple as that.


188 posted on 01/30/2009 1:12:49 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: Red in Blue PA
You have a choice......but not on my dime.

What do you mean, "you have a choice?" Paulson forced solvent banks like Wells Fargo to take bailout money even if they didn't want any.

189 posted on 01/30/2009 1:12:58 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: kabar
When you get a mortgage on your house, does the bank have a say on how you spend your household budget?

LOL...that's the same argument I thought of. I'ts a waste of time though.

190 posted on 01/30/2009 1:13:16 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to muzzies, not Rush)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Doesn’t that make sense as a law? Why should I, as a shareholder, have to fly across the country to ask for a provision to be voted on that I am allowed some say in what the execs at MY company make?

No, it doesn't make sense as law. The shareholders (all of them, not just you) are the owners of the company. It is purely their decision as to how they want to compensate their CEO.

191 posted on 01/30/2009 1:13:20 PM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Incompetent CEO’s brought us to where we are.

Patently false. Incompetent government did. We should have let them fail precisely to avoid this mess.

That old slippery slope thing...

192 posted on 01/30/2009 1:13:32 PM PST by WrightWings (Remember, Remember, the Fifth of November...)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Don’t forget that the first 3 quarters of this year performed well for most companies. (Even the financial markets.) These bonuses were rightly earned.

The bonuses came at the end of this year but do not reflect the drastic changes in the last quarter. Next year will reflect the current performance. There will be no bonuses.

Also note that last quarter losses do not disqualify the previous 3 and that during that period, the markets were fully on their own and have nothing to do with TARP. So those bonuses recieved at the end of this year were rightly owed.

But I thought you knew all there was to know about that.


193 posted on 01/30/2009 1:13:39 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (WHAT? Where did my tag line go? (ACORN))
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To: Non-Sequitur
The problem is that when the government provided the bailout money to the banks and firms, no strings or restrictions were stipulated. This is all after the fact as a way to demonize corporations and the capitalist system and enlist public support for greater government control. Government is the problem, not the solution. And that will become apparent more and more with each passing day.

I lived in a Communist country for two years. We are going in the wrong direction.

194 posted on 01/30/2009 1:14:40 PM PST by kabar
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To: Red in Blue PA
But if it must be, why should there be no rules attached?

Nevermind, you just don't get it.

Attaching strings is the control these companies were set up for by the government to begin with.

They now have you on their side and you don't even know it, in fact you're rooting for them.

195 posted on 01/30/2009 1:18:42 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to muzzies, not Rush)
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To: kabar
This is all after the fact as a way to demonize corporations and the capitalist system and enlist public support for greater government control.

I think the senior executives of these corporations have done more to accomplish that than anything Congress could do now.

196 posted on 01/30/2009 1:21:28 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: coon2000
It is not only businesses that getting this money. This bill is hundreds of pages long. Over $600 million is being provided for converter boxes to digital TV and Congress has delayed implementation another three months cosing companies millions because they must continue to transmit in both systems. ACORN is getting over $4 billion. WWII Filipino war vets [most not US citizens] are receiving hundreds of millions of dollars. Our failing school systems are being rewarded with tens of billions of dollars. This is mostly a pork bill rather than a stimulus bill. And most of the money is not going to bailout businesses.

If I recall correctly, these bonuses were given before the bailout money was provided.

197 posted on 01/30/2009 1:21:44 PM PST by kabar
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To: swarthyguy

Bush also signed the prescription drug program, McCain-Feingold, etc. without a majority of Reps. And he tried to shove comprehensive immigration reform down our throats. I am not trying to excuse Bush’s actions, but when you compare the Reps to the Dems on these issues, clearly the Dems should be held more responsible. And we will be able to see and have seen the differences of having a Dem in the WH vs a Rep, even Bush.


198 posted on 01/30/2009 1:25:25 PM PST by kabar
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To: ilgipper

I’ll bet those wall street wonders are happy they donated so much to bama now! And right from the pigs lips.


199 posted on 01/30/2009 1:28:55 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: LottieDah

If they got paid by their worth, they would get zero, nothing and in some cases they would owe the tax payers money.


200 posted on 01/30/2009 1:31:38 PM PST by chiefqc
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