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Angry senator wants pay cap on Wall Street 'idiots'
CNN ^ | 1/30/2009 | CNN

Posted on 01/30/2009 11:55:19 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- One day after President Barack Obama ripped Wall Street executives for their "shameful" decision to hand out $18 billion in bonuses in 2008, Congress may finally have had enough.

An angry U.S. senator introduced legislation Friday to cap compensation for employees of any company that accepts federal bailout money. Under the terms of a bill introduced by Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Missouri, no employee would be allowed to make more than the president of the United States.

Obama's current annual salary is $400,000.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: 111th; bailout; bho2009; democratcongress; democrats; economy; mccaskill
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To: LottieDah

I’d prefer a media exposure cap for idiot politicians (which is just about every dang one of ‘em).


121 posted on 01/30/2009 12:38:09 PM PST by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Will professional athletes be included? My state pays dearly to keep a football team from leaving. So in a way, we have been bailing them out since 1984. Being that this is the case, why should an athlete on that team make more than the president?


122 posted on 01/30/2009 12:38:27 PM PST by mysterio
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To: chrisser; All

“Personally, I think those who are stockholders in the company should be the judge.”

You don’t get it.

Stockholders have ZERO say in the compensation packages of execs. These are determined by Compensation Committees, which are NOT acountable to the shareholders, the so-called owners. That needs to change.


123 posted on 01/30/2009 12:39:19 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Not all Wall Street people are idiots. Senators, on the other hand...


124 posted on 01/30/2009 12:39:20 PM PST by popdonnelly (The problem with Obama is that he believes his own hype.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

“But not all expensive people are competent..............”

The people posting here seem to have the notion that no price is too high to pay for an incompetent Wall Streeter, but the GM CEO needs to make a buck a year.


125 posted on 01/30/2009 12:40:54 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
I think its stupid when Republicans introduce bills such as this and its doubly stupid when the Dims do it
126 posted on 01/30/2009 12:41:20 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: FMBass
Poor Sen. Claire McCaskill! She is trying soooo hard to be the dumbest b*tch in the Senate, but she is still running behind Patricia Bin Murray, Barbara Boxer and Amy K. from Minnesota.

While we can all sympathize with capping salaries for CEO's of companys which get bailed out, the greater argument is (a)what entitles them to the bail-out in the first place and (b)why can't we find a comparable and suitable penalty for the jerkwads in congress who did even more to create this mess?

127 posted on 01/30/2009 12:41:37 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: popdonnelly; All

“Not all Wall Street people are idiots.”

Okay, not all. How about 70%?

Have you seen how many 100 year old firms have gone down in flames on Wall Street?

My dog could have done better.


128 posted on 01/30/2009 12:41:49 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Because I think that people should not get $50 Million pay packages on the taxpayer dime, I am not a conservative?

No, because you want the USG to micromanage these companies. And you are missing the larger issue, i.e., the Dems are pissing away more than a trillion dollars in pork that will reward their cronies and constituents and failing businesses that deserve to fail, all on the taxpayers dime not only for the living but their children and their children's children. 17 cents of every federal dollar is now spent on servicing the debt and this will increase significantly because of these "stimulus" bills.

You are falling for the Obama strategy of focussing on these issues [class envy] rather than what is in the bill. Obama used his power to prevent Citibank from buying a $50 million corporate jet. This played well in Peoria, but it wasn't the full story. The new jet was to replace two older ones and decrease operating costs.

I sure as hell want the corporations to operate their own business and not have Obama micromanaging them. Obama has never run anything larger than a Senate office staff prior to becoming President. It is up to the Board of Directors and the shareholders to hold the executives accountable and set salary levels.

129 posted on 01/30/2009 12:41:59 PM PST by kabar
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To: Red in Blue PA
Hey, they can always return it if they do not like the terms!

There WERE no terms. This is an after-the-fact demand by the commies in Washington who have decided, 3 months later, that they didn't quite like the way the money that they gave away was spent.

They should have considered making a contractural agreement before dishing out the taxpayer's money.

Better yet, they shouldn't have given away money in the first place. The only reason this bailout occurred was to hide the fact that it was the government at many levels that caused the housing and credit debacle in the first place. They're covering for their own inept policies.

130 posted on 01/30/2009 12:42:16 PM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: meyer

I hate to break it to you but a Republican Administration is the one who doled out the money.


131 posted on 01/30/2009 12:43:09 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I don’t believe it’s tinfoil..slippery slope and all that..once it’s in for a few, it won’t be long before they (dems) find a way to make it so for the rest, whether or not bailout money was received..

Believe me, I WISH it was tinfoil, but once entrenched on the slope, the slide becomes faster..

IMHO


132 posted on 01/30/2009 12:43:11 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (A democrat will break your leg, then hand you a crutch and take credit for your being able to walk.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This will cause a flight of talent from troubled firms.


133 posted on 01/30/2009 12:43:37 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: kabar

“It is up to the Board of Directors and the shareholders to hold the executives accountable “

THEY. AREN’T. DOING. THIS!


134 posted on 01/30/2009 12:44:06 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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Anyone who thinks that capping salaries is a good idea is an idiot.

The market works just fine when the proper oversight is provided by the Board of Directors.

99% of these bonuses went to the guys in the middle-those who’s salary is based on the amount of business that is brought into a company. And you know what—during the past year those folks who’s business it is to “trade” have done a great deal of business. They make money going up, and going down. These are not “buy and hold” shops, they are brokerages. If there is no trading going on, they wont make the commissions and bonuses.

You cannot just decided that a business model doesnt work because you dont like the outcome. if it bothered them that much, dont pay them the TARP money.

The folks in Washington, and in middle america don’t understand how this business has worked for a thousand years.

Go ahead—wage controls worked great in 1970, I am sure they will do wonders now.

Fools.


135 posted on 01/30/2009 12:44:43 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Ein Volk, Ein Riech, Ein Ein.)
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To: mysterio

“Being that this is the case, why should an athlete on that team make more than the president?”

That reminds me of the story about Babe Ruth. In 1931 a reporter asked him if it embarrassed him to be earning more than the President of the United States, and the Babe replied “No, I had a much better year than he did”.


136 posted on 01/30/2009 12:45:05 PM PST by devere
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To: Petronski

“This will cause a flight of talent from troubled firms.”

All 4 people?


137 posted on 01/30/2009 12:45:08 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
You don’t get itStockholders have ZERO say in the compensation packages of execs. These are determined by Compensation Committees, which are NOT acountable to the shareholders, the so-called owners. That needs to change.

With all due respect, you are the one who doesn't "get it", and the fact that you seem to have no idea how a corporation works only goes to underscore that fact.

The compensation committee is appointed by the board. Generally, that committee contains some or all board members. The board is elected by the shareholders.

This wacky system is called a representative form of government. Not all that different than the wacky system of representatives given to us by the Founders to run the country.
138 posted on 01/30/2009 12:45:21 PM PST by chrisser (The Two Americas: Those that want to be coddled, Those that want to be left the hell alone.)
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To: Vermont Lt

“99% of these bonuses went to the guys in the middle”

Run the numbers.

This is simply not the case.


139 posted on 01/30/2009 12:46:01 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Spare me the sophistry.


140 posted on 01/30/2009 12:46:25 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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