Posted on 01/30/2009 6:29:15 AM PST by Marauder
Advocates of victim disarmament in today’s American politics owe their tactics and techniques to a man whose name is becoming more and more familiar: Saul Alinsky. Hillary Clinton actually sat at his feet. Barack Hussein Obama was spoon fed his teachings. Bill Clinton was Saul’s ideological son. And you can bet that freshman Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (Dem. NY) has been well versed in Alinskyism by her own mentor … Madam Hillary.
For decades gun owners have shaken their head in wonder as lie after lie from the gun grabbers results in more and more anti firearms ownership legislation. We can conservatively estimate that there are at least sixty five million gun owners in America today. That is an immense “interest group”. And yet, gun registration (and outright confiscation) schemes have never, in the entire history of our nation, loomed so ominously on the horizon.
Lunacy reigns. But it didn’t happen accidentally. We’ve arrived at the endgame of a process, a process that Saul Alinsky, if he didn’t invent it, polished, packaged, and taught with unbelievable skill and cynicism.
Alinsky’s last book, published in 1971, a year before he died, is titled “Rules For Radicals”. These tactics are the “hidden weapon” of the more sophisticated “gun control” advocates.
Here are Alinsky’s thirteen basic rules. I’ve commented on each, and how they are used by the victim disarmament crowd. The old saw, “know thine enemy”, is ably served if you first understand what your enemy has been taught. The next time you see an anti gun politician or spokesperson spouting off about “responsible gun ownership”, or “keeping guns out of the hands of criminals”, or “the rights of hunters” understand that it is all deception based upon Alinsky’s tactics.
(Excerpt) Read more at jpfo.org ...
When I win the lottery I’m building me an AR with as much LaRue stuff as I can. I like my gas piston though ... But yeah, nice swag when you deal with them. Got my hat on now. (We heat with wood and it’s COLD here today.)
I phrase the question slightly differently. I ask, “Do you think a German citizen in 1930 thought things would turn out the way they did?”
Now all that I need to do is get my hands on my first AR-15(!)... (Yeah, I know that it's putting the cart before the horse to get the mags before getting the gun. Gotta get me some ammo, too, otherwise having the mags is a bit of a moot point)...
Looking for an S&W M&P15 (appropriately neutered to meet CT's idiotic assault weapon restrictions), but also have my name on a local shop's waiting list for a Bushmaster, Stag, or Armalite...
Collectivists (the sheep type who are sold on the idea) will overlook many atrocities, because the end goal is so desirable.
There is always a time, but usually too late, when they cry “this isn’t what we intended”.
My last batch of PMags took 6 weeks to get here.
Good luck getting an AR. I went to my local gunshop recently to order a Colt LE6921 and the shop owner just flat out said that he simply can't get them.
Personally, I do not like Glocks.
The fact that you need to pull the trigger to perform a take down is an inherent flaw in the design of the gun.
Additionally, polymer guns really aren’t me thing.
For me, it’s a Kimber 1911 and CZ75.
Mine has been at the Ruger factory for over 2 months now! I dropped it off before Thanksgiving.
I can only assume that all of the recalls (LCP & SR) are backing everything up. Luckily, it isn’t my only gunt o rely upon. Then I would be really annoyed.
I’m gonna get one of those LCP’s. They look perfect for concealed carry.
I carry illegal most of the time
Then you rub Rummel in their face. Great resource, if you’re not familiar with him.
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM
I owned two $900+ each Kimber Tactical 1911's (Custom and Ultra). Both required tools to field strip, but the thing that turned me against them was that the full sized version was not reliable. Got rid of both, and will never buy another (don't know what posessed me to buy something made in anti-gun NY in the first place).
I've heard decent things about the CZ, but all I've seen are too heavy for my liking.
Glocks are relatively inexpensive, lightweight, extremely reliable, require no tools for field disassembly, require no real "break-in" period/# of rounds, have reduced felt recoil - mainly due to the Polymer frame, do not require the operator to manipulate an external safety for operation (the BRAIN is the safety, so there is one less mechanical device to manipulate or have break on you in a tense, real-world encounter), and are easy to shoot well.
The polymer Glock and many others use is lighter and stronger than most materials used in firearms manufacturing, and has proven itself worthy over time.
“monolithic block”, you say. Tell me, which groups in America have voted more ‘monolithically’ than Jews have over the past 40 years? Maybe Blacks, that’s about it.
Yeah, tell me all about it with your sarcastic, stereotypical attempt as denigrating your opposition. And you’re probably on here bashing Pat Buchanan every chance you get too, for having the audacity to speak the truth and condemn what should be condemned.
Yeah, anyone who even mutters a contrary word about Jews is a bigot, a racist, an anti-Semite, blah, blah, blah. Screw you. I’ve seen enough, I’ve watched too many Americans cower from this propaganda, this bullshit. I notice you didn’t counter the point made in the post you responded to; that “the Jews have been at the forefront of the leftward movement that has so negatively impacted this country..”. Where’s your counter? Of course, you have none, but of course we’re not supposed to mention it......
Shove it.
“without Jewish money, this place would still be a British colony..”
After reading this, there wasn’t much reason to continue wasting my time with the rest.
Just in case you missed it on the link, here are the rules:
1 ) Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.
2 ) Never go outside the experience of your people. It may result in confusion, fear and retreat.
3 ) Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear and retreat.
4 ) Make the enemy live up to his/her own book of rules.
5 ) Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.
6 ) A good tactic is one that your people enjoy.
7 ) A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.
8 ) Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.
9 ) The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.
10 ) The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.
11 ) If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside.
12 ) The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.
13 ) Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it.
Cut and paste, save for future reference.
These are the tools that our opponents uses to oppress us. We need to adopt their own tactics, adapt them to our purposes and turn them against the establishment.
Just remember Rule# 7.
Counter, your words speak well for you, as well as they do for any jihadist hater. There's no counter necessary. But feel free to mention anything you like, including the nature of the Jewish conspiracy that has allowed 1.5% to 2% of the population to take over and destroy the nation.
You see a thread on a conservative gun rights organization on a purportadly conservative forum. Oh, Oh, there it is, in the name of the organation, JEWS for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership.
So, wearing your Jew tinted glasses, you’re off to the races.
Well, the Jews have been at the forefront of the leftward movement that has so negatively impacted this country over the past 40-50 years. And now, some of them are realizing that the Frankenstein is turning on them, so they are racing to the right? Screw them and their crappy influence on this country.Oh, no doubt. However, taken in its entirety, the political activity of the Jewish community in America over the past 50 years has been hugely negative for this country. Incredibly negative.
Yeah, anyone who even mutters a contrary word about Jews is a bigot, a racist, an anti-Semite, blah, blah, blah. Screw you. I’ve seen enough, I’ve watched too many Americans cower from this propaganda, this bullshit. I notice you didn’t counter the point made in the post you responded to; that “the Jews have been at the forefront of the leftward movement that has so negatively impacted this country..”. Where’s your counter? Of course, you have none, but of course we’re not supposed to mention it......
Some people agree with you, some don’t. Most consider your attitudes as bigoted, you’re proud of them, and there are those who’ll pat you on the back. And yeah, they couch their kudus in patriotism. Them Jews, ruing the country.
Have a nice day. Don’t eat too much of that bullshit, it’s not good for your brain.
I find neither your generalizations accurate nor your rhetorical style constructive. Your tone is bigoted and not well informed. Your opinions can be used to make conservatives in general look like ill informed bigots.
I recommend you read Rules #13 and #5.
Ironically the Jewish population of the US has been dropping as a percentage during the period in question, 40 to 50 years. If the country is going to h*ll in a handbasket, I don’t accept that, it must be because there aren’t enough Jews. :>)
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