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Loess problems (Biblical Flood provides better explanation for distribution of loess)
CMI ^ | Michael J. Oard

Posted on 01/29/2009 6:26:00 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

Loess, generally considered to be wind-blown silt, has caused a number of problems for uniformitarism. The major problems are the missing periglacial loess from past ice ages, a lack of a source for the immense volume of loess (covering about 10% of Earth’s land surface) and the lack of eroded loess from past ice ages. How loess is produced has also caused a quandary for uniformitarians, with only fluvial tumbling in mixed-sized sediment producing a large volume of silt. However, the Flood and post-Flood Ice Age provide a more plausible framework in which to explain the volume and distribution of loess. Extreme turbulence in the Flood would have provided the right context for producing the necessary silt, which may have been reworked during the dry, deglacial phase of the Ice Age...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; evolution; intelligentdesign; loess
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


41 posted on 01/29/2009 9:08:00 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: cacoethes_resipisco
“A 15-inch layer of volcanic ash can be seen in some road cuts, the result of eruptions at now-extinct volcanoes near Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming more than 710,000 years ago. “

That would get our attention if repeated...

42 posted on 01/29/2009 9:10:42 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I can't wait for January 20, 2013")
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To: editor-surveyor
The water came from hundreds of miles below the surface, and it had to be essentially 'fresh' water, but very 'hard.' Does the phrase "fountains of the great deep" ring any bells?

And where did it go?

The salt came after the "flood." The water was incredibly hot too.

Are you claiming that salt water oceans are a post-flood phenomena? Where did the salt come from?

43 posted on 01/30/2009 4:17:53 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: editor-surveyor

Uh...no. Now you’re just making stuff up.


44 posted on 01/30/2009 5:42:14 AM PST by mamelukesabre (Give me Liberty or give me something to aim at)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Are you claiming that salt water oceans are a post-flood phenomena? Where did the salt come from?

The shakers of the deep.

45 posted on 01/30/2009 5:42:16 AM PST by atlaw
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To: atlaw
The shakers of the deep.

That must mean that the Shakers religous sect of the 18th and 19th century were were formed in homage to the mighty salt shakers of God that gave the oceans their salinity. It's all coming together now.

46 posted on 01/30/2009 6:10:56 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: mamelukesabre
This is not to be confused with the acronym "lowess" which is pronounced the way it reads. In a scatterplot or time series plot, the "lowess" (locally weighted scatterplot smoother) is used to identify trends in the data.


47 posted on 01/30/2009 6:13:47 AM PST by jimmyray
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To: mamelukesabre

No, not making anything up.
The pronounciation for the ‘oe’ vowel varies depending on two geographic groups in central Europe: the mountains, and the northern coastal plain.

The ‘Lowess’ nonsense is from British arrogance and ignorance that is applied to all languages not british. Mispronounciation is an old British tradition.


48 posted on 01/30/2009 7:23:37 AM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Non-Sequitur
"And where did it go?"

Much of it formed the deep oceans that we now have, as the continent broke up and large sections were moved by gravitational stress, creating the deep basins in which the oceans now exist. The original ocean was broad, and shallow. Most of this happened over the span of one or two generations.

"Where did the salt come from?"

The same place that it would have to come from under any scenario: the land.

"Are you claiming that salt water oceans are a post-flood phenomena? (sic)"

In the concentrations that now exist, definately. Clouds and rain are post-flood phenomina. Prior to the judgement, the land was watered only by the "mist." This is what was stated in Genesis.

49 posted on 01/30/2009 7:40:27 AM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

And all that makes perfect sense to you?


50 posted on 01/30/2009 7:44:00 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
"And all that makes perfect sense to you?"

As much sense as any true, but incomplete description can. Since we don't need to know the rest of the details, their persuit is elective.

51 posted on 01/30/2009 8:01:21 AM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor
As much sense as any true, but incomplete description can.

Of course.

52 posted on 01/30/2009 8:09:58 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: cacoethes_resipisco; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
"Yep, complaining about an ignoramous claiming that evolution was exactly equivalent to satanism, is apparently out of bounds."

And the re-definition begins immediately.

Poor c-man got booted for 'complaining', not for being incredibly rude to his host in the man's own house.

Oh well, gotta maintain that superiority paradigm somehow.

53 posted on 01/30/2009 9:38:02 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

“Bye bye, c-man.”

Are you serious? He got dropped? The devil lost a piece of his foothold in FR.


54 posted on 01/30/2009 10:30:06 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: cacoethes_resipisco

There is not distinguishable difference in the religion of Evolution and Satanism. I’m not talking about Hollywood or Upset-my-parents Satanism. The actual people who worship Lucifer his based on the same paradigm and has the same doctrine.


55 posted on 01/30/2009 10:34:12 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: GourmetDan

Wow! Paradigm used twice in the same thread?


56 posted on 01/30/2009 10:41:50 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod
"Wow! Paradigm used twice in the same thread?"

Just remember this simple rule:

If creationists do it, it confirms their error; if evolutionists do it, it confirms their accuracy.

57 posted on 01/30/2009 10:56:48 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Dog Gone
JR doesn’t boot people for trying to police the threads they post. He boots them because he doesn’t like them.

He boots them because they try to tell him what to do on his own property. Come to think of it, that's a pretty good reason for not liking somebody, so maybe we're both right.

58 posted on 01/30/2009 1:56:04 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Post-flood ice age?

The earth is more than 6000 years old now?

Where in Genesis does this ice age appear?


59 posted on 01/30/2009 1:58:46 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: demshateGod
Are you serious? He got dropped? The devil lost a piece of his foothold in FR.

Yep, Coyoteman challenged Jim Robinson's understanding of the Castle Doctrine, and failed.

60 posted on 01/30/2009 1:59:31 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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