Posted on 01/29/2009 7:57:16 AM PST by Clinton's a liar
This is a memo from Speaker Nancy Pelosi to Democratic members sent after the stimulus vote yesterday. Pelosi is apparently panicked at Republicans’ success in uniting against her hyperpartisan actions in shutting them out of the formulation of the stimulus bill and in peeling nearly a dozen Dems off to vote in opposition.
Here is the full text of the memo leaked to HUMAN EVENTS this morning.
Memo
To: Interested Parties
From: Brendan Daly
Re: The Republican Problem
Date: January 29, 2009
The House Republican Leadership put its Members in another politically untenable position yesterday: trying to reclaim the mantle of lower taxes and small government -- at the exact time when economists of every ideological stripe agree that government investments are the only way to get our economy moving again and make us competitive for the long term.
So yesterday, while we are facing the greatest economic crisis in decades, Republican House Members ended up voting unanimously against:
(Excerpt) Read more at humanevents.com ...
When they pass stimulus and it doesn’t create jobs, I am betting a lot of people are going to lose their rosy glasses on the Messiah. I WANT the GOP there saying, we knew it wouldn’t work, THAT is why we were pushing for job-creating tax cuts.
I find Nancy’s statement about economists interesting in light of the ad the CATO Institute took out in the NYT.....
Maybe her face is too tight, but 200 of the world’s leading economists did NOT agree with her position.....
Same old democrate lies about budget surplus under clinton..... borrowing from SS to cover debts is not a surplus...it’s like check kiting.
Talking point memo. The scary part is, I think some of them really believe this stuff.
Hi CAL!
Pelousey is in a pannic because she realizes that if just 25 more of her herd cross ove, she is history.
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* 2.6 million American jobs were lost in 2008 alone.”
THIS WAS ON SPEAKER PELOSI’S WATCH!!! SHE CANNOT BLAME REPUBLICANS FOR THIS, SHE RAN THE HOUSE IN 2007 and 2008!
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* The Clinton Administration left a record budget surplus. President Bush turned it into the worst deficit in American history.”
*CONGRESS* writes the budget. The Republican Congress of 1994-2000 balanced the budget and then the mixed Congress of 2001-2003, GOP Congress of 2003-2006 and Democrat Congress of 2007-2008 screwed that up. While Bush bears blame SO DOES NANCY PELOSI! THEY CANNOT PUT IT ON REPUBLICANS! And if that is a problem - WHAT IS PELOSI DOING NOW TO FIX IT?
I did hear Rush say Shuler had to “get permission” to vote against the bailout. Mother may I, so I can get re- elected? Disgusting!
Did you ask him point-blank if he felt running a $2 TRILLION deficit this year was the right way to heal the economy long-term?
That is the question to make the liberals ... sweat/ eyes open, etc.
Call and Thank Dems Who Voted Against the Stimulus Bill
I’ll call but I’m not thanking them and they will not like what they hear.
“There are not a few people that think trying to balance the budget in the mid 1930’s prolonged the Depression.”
They are wrong, because Hoover and FDR both ran up huge spending increases and deficits. What lengthened the depression was the tax hikes and the New Deal regulations that stifled employment and curbed productions. Stupidity like paying farmers not to plant hurt us.
“For the GOP to take an ideological tack that is the wrong economic tack at this point could be bad for the US and bad for the GOP (as it was in the 1930’s and 1940’s).”
Actually, it is the DEMOCRATS who are taking the wrong economic tack. They refuse to put in real stimulus elements, like tax rate reductions and business tax reductions. They have 3/4s of the spending AFTER 2009, ie after the recession is over - so even by Keynesian standards THIS BILL IS DESTINED TO FAIL.
and dont repeat the tired liberal lies about the GOP of the 1930s and 1940s. Fact is, hoover was an interventionist - higher tax rates, higher tariffs, big spending - it didnt work. FDRs New Deal failed. Failed so bad unemployment was still double digits in 1939 and the economy was smaller in 1939 than 1929. The failure of the New Deal is indeed what made it the Great Depression. UCLA economists have studied and determined how and why the New Deal lengthened the great depression.
“I support the theory, but right now Keynesian economics is the right move. The nuance of wanting to avoid wasteful spending and spending period is definitely lost on voters.”
Contradictory. Keynesian policies failed in Japan in the 1990s. Reaganomics worked in the 1980s. The payoff from lower tax rates, even just making the Bush tax cuts permanent and minor corporate tax rate reductions, would DO MORE GOOD at much less cost than this trillion dollar boondoggle.
Do the right thing now and spend the next 18 months explaining it to people. They will get it.
“Moreover, as much as tax cuts sound like a good idea, the possibility that they would be spent (thus stimulating consumption and growth) as opposed to saved is a not 100% clear.”
The mind boggles - you’ve been brainwashed by keynesian stupidity. you actually think spending is better than savings for the economy?!?! what happens to the money you save? It disappears? NOT! It becomes part of the capital basis of say a bank, who then can lend to someone who then SPENDS IT. That whole aspect of keynesianism is corrupted and wrong. savings recycle to investment, and in fact in recessions it is investment which leads us out of recessions.
Nutso Pelosi, Reid, Obama OWN this nightmare.
All the coming corruption, the mis-spent money, the failed programs, the missing moneys, the pork, all the things we know gubmint is going to do when given massive funds and power.
They own it now. And there will be a political price to pay.
They realize this now and they don’t want the blame. I hope the Republicans have been slapped and are wide awake now. Their political careers hinge on this bill.
Countries that invested heavily in military spending such as Japan and Germany did fare better than countries that may of spent about the same amount of government spending but more for public works and soup kitchens.
Yes, it took Hitler and Tojo to fix our depression. FDR was not up to the task. His policies were prolonging and deepening it.
The Republican Problem
The Jewish Problem
Similar mindset at work here.....
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Dear MoveOn Member:
Did you see how many Republicans voted for President Obama’s stimulus package in the House yesterday?
None. Seriously, not a single one.1
Americans voted overwhelmingly for change in November. We voted for an end to the partisan bickering and political games that are destroying our politics. And President Obama bent over backwards to get House Republicans to craft a bipartisan bill, to no avail.
As the bill moves to the Senate, we need bipartisan support, or the stimulus won’t pass. Senate Republicans need to know they have a clear choice: support a stimulus package that will put millions of Americans back to work, or continue to play the games that got us into this mess.
We’ve put together a powerful new ad to pressure the key senators. Can you chip in $25 to get it on the air immediately?
https://pol.moveon.org/donate/recovery_ad.html?id=15461-12126659-QUXu6Ax&t=3
President Obama spent hours meeting with Republican leaders personally. He made painful compromises to win them over.2
But Republicans refused to play ball. They’re insisting on a plan that doesn’t invest a cent in green jobs or health care or education. They just want more tax cuts for the rich and for corporations, even though that’s part of what got us into this mess.3
GOP leaders will get their way—unless we can convince a few Republican senators who are on the fence.
Can you contribute $25 to our new ad to pressure swing-vote Republican senators? Click here:
https://pol.moveon.org/donate/recovery_ad.html?id=15461-12126659-QUXu6Ax&t=4
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- The MoveOn Team
Sources:
1. “House Passes Stimulus Plan Despite G.O.P. Opposition,” The New York Times, January 28, 2009
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/29/us/politics/29obama.html
“Final Vote Results for Roll Call 46,” Office of the Clerk, House of Representatives, January 28, 2009
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll046.xml
2. “Obama Tries to Bolster Republican Support For Stimulus,” NewsHour, January 27, 2009
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=51121&id=15461-12126659-QUXu6Ax&t=5
3. “Factbox: U.S. House Republican alternative stimulus proposal,” Reuters, January 28, 2009
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=51123&id=15461-12126659-QUXu6Ax&t=6
This is just another example of how Rush has turned the tables on them again. They wanted to “paint, personalize, freeze and...” can’t remember the last one, and he came out quoting Alinsky and asking why they need our support if their bill is so great. SMACK-down.
They’re alternate solution was denied by the Rats.
The dingbat Pelosi didn't think clearly about her new rule changes thoroughly. You own it 100% you ....
Democrats don’t need bi-partisan support to pass the bill in the Senate. They need two votes to have a veto-proof majority, and likely already have one in Susan Collins based on recent statements. Moveon.org is just fundraising.
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