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$825 Billion in Spending & Tax Cuts: Vote on GOP Alternative Plan Fails (170-266)
C-SPAN ^ | 1/28/2009 | Me

Posted on 01/28/2009 2:37:18 PM PST by Smogger

YEA NAY PRES NV
DEMOCTATIC 2 255 2
REPUBLICAN 168 9 1
INDEPENDENT 2
TOTALS 170 266 3


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhostimulus; gop; obama; pelosi
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To: Smogger

Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs&NR=1


21 posted on 01/28/2009 3:01:24 PM PST by shielagolden
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To: DoughtyOne

A RINO or two will give them cloture.


22 posted on 01/28/2009 3:01:26 PM PST by SeanOGuano
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To: DoughtyOne

You are right. Hopefully they can do it then.


23 posted on 01/28/2009 3:02:08 PM PST by utahson
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To: kjo
This is insane...does anyone in Washington know what is about to happen.

No they don't. Rest assured, they are gonna rue the day, and that day is coming soon.

Let's just call it Judgement Day.

24 posted on 01/28/2009 3:02:29 PM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Yes. I am not watching CSPAN but Boehner had an alternative.

Floor summary here:
http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.html

The bill and actions here:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:H.R.1:

Roll call votes are not online yet.

The good news - only 9 turncoat GOP House members.
The bad news - 9 turncoat GOP House members. Pitchforks and tar and feathering material will be made available for these RINOs.


25 posted on 01/28/2009 3:04:33 PM PST by WOSG (Oppose the bailouts, boondoggles, big Government -)
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To: DoughtyOne

GOP needs to make a public convincing case on how tax cuts will create jobs. Lacking that it appears like another dollar bailout.


26 posted on 01/28/2009 3:05:21 PM PST by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Smogger

Nan’s rules to stay in power forever:

http://www.rules.house.gov/111/LegText/111_hres_ruleschnge_smmry.pdf


27 posted on 01/28/2009 3:05:23 PM PST by combat_boots ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."Aldous Huxley)
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To: Smogger

>>Names Please!! <<

Yeah I want to that list - also curious about the 2 Dems.


28 posted on 01/28/2009 3:06:57 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Smogger

Bump for names when they are available.


29 posted on 01/28/2009 3:07:59 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Smogger

Final vote on bill - NO YEA VOTES FOR THE GOP! 174 NO votes. a few NV.

Democrats are nearly lockstep as well, 9 no votes, rest are yea votes.

Comments via NRO The Corner from the House floor debate:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/

A few samples from the debate on the Republican stimulus substitute:

Rep. Mike Pence (R., Ind.): “More big government spending on liberal government programs won’t put Americans back to work.”

Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D., Ore.): “These are the same people who told us the Bush tax cuts were going to lead to nirvana . . . I am glad they have come to the floor to present their alternative, because it shows us their priorities: take money away from 95 percent of the American public, and give it to the wealthiest Americans who need it least.”

Rep. John Boehner (R., Ohio): “The bill we have on the floor is rooted in the idea that fast-acting tax relief will do a lot more than slow-moving government programs . . . Today, in this debate, we think that we have a better idea. President Obama has made clear that he believes the goal here should be to preserve jobs in America and create new jobs in America . . . This bill, in fact, better meets the goal that the President himself has outlined . . . At the end of the day, the bill we’re going to pass is not being paid by taxpayers today. It’s being paid by our kids and their kids.”

Rep. Earl Pomeroy (D., ND): “I’m fairly astounded that we’d see a sub that goes back to the old tired republican formula of letting hte top have everything and letting the others be shortchanged . . . “

Rep. Brian Higgins (D., N.Y.): “The Republican substitute would eliminate $500 million for road and bridge construction in economically depressed areas like Buffalo and Lackawana, N.Y.”

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R., Tex.): “We did too much deficit spending during the last six years when we were in the majority. And now the Democrats are doing the same thing . . . When we elected a president who promised change, I really hoped we were going to have change and get away from the deficit spending of the last eight years. But instead of getting change, with the original [Democratic] bill here we are getting much, much, much, much more of the same.”


30 posted on 01/28/2009 3:09:38 PM PST by WOSG (Oppose the bailouts, boondoggles, big Government -)
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To: SeanOGuano

No doubt. I would just hope that a couple of dems would roll over too. I’ve noted both sides are crossing. We had ten the other day, and the Democrats six on that one bill.


31 posted on 01/28/2009 3:10:32 PM PST by DoughtyOne (D1: Home of the golden tag line: 01/22/09 Obama hands the hope of the unborn to terrorists.)
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To: utahson

Thanks. I sure hope so.


32 posted on 01/28/2009 3:11:22 PM PST by DoughtyOne (D1: Home of the golden tag line: 01/22/09 Obama hands the hope of the unborn to terrorists.)
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To: Smogger

“9 Turncoat Republicans. “

NO TURNCOATS ON THE FINAL VOTE!!!
WAY TO GO, HOUSE GOP!!
177 NO VOTES!

We can put the pitchforks away, and/or use them as needed to go after the Democrats, especially the Pelosi Poodle Faux “blue-dogs” who pretend they are non-liberals to voters, while voting for this garbage. Only 11 Democrats voted no, so this was a very partyline vote.

See:

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx


33 posted on 01/28/2009 3:12:30 PM PST by WOSG (Oppose the bailouts, boondoggles, big Government -)
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To: DoughtyOne

FINAL VOTE HAD ZERO GOP “YEA” VOTES AND 10 DEMOCRAT CROSSOVERS. This is better than we might have expected.


34 posted on 01/28/2009 3:13:23 PM PST by WOSG (Oppose the bailouts, boondoggles, big Government -)
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To: ex-snook

I think they might get farther, by making a fifty point objection, all fifty points related to the Democrats lining their political nest. The ACORN funding, the abortion funding, the newspapers that backed them getting bailouts...

I’d be up there on capital hill beating them like a drum for what they are trying to do.


35 posted on 01/28/2009 3:13:40 PM PST by DoughtyOne (D1: Home of the golden tag line: 01/22/09 Obama hands the hope of the unborn to terrorists.)
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To: WOSG

Same old tired crap from the Dems.


36 posted on 01/28/2009 3:14:08 PM PST by SoDak (Molon Labe)
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To: WOSG

I agree. It is better than it could have been. The Congress is where we’re going to get our clocks cleaned. It will be ugly. It’s the Senate that may have some value. And there are a couple of fiscally conservative Democrats. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a couple come over. Of course it does no good if five of our folks bolt.


37 posted on 01/28/2009 3:16:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne (D1: Home of the golden tag line: 01/22/09 Obama hands the hope of the unborn to terrorists.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“And there are a couple of fiscally conservative Democrats”

Dont get your hopes up.

This House vote is a good sign that Republican support is minimal but the Dems are mostly on board as well. we need to get all the wobbly RINO Senators ‘in line’ to oppose this.

It can be stopped, but its like threading the needle with a thick rope.


38 posted on 01/28/2009 3:20:10 PM PST by WOSG (Oppose the bailouts, boondoggles, big Government -)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

“Was this a “conservative” alternative plan?”

YES

http://republicanleader.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=109688

Here is the real kicker:

“a plan that would create 6.2 million new jobs by the end of 2010, according to a methodology used by President Obama’s own nominee as Chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisors, Dr. Christina Romer:”

THEY USED THE MODEL USED BY OBAMA’S OWN TEAM AND THE REPUBLICAN PLAN WOULD COST HALF AS MUCH AS THE OBAMA/PELOSI/REID PLAN AND CREATE TWICE AS MANY JOBS!

LOL...Obama and the dems are steamed that we used their own computer models to prove our plan is better. waiting on the media to report it...(eye roll)


39 posted on 01/28/2009 3:20:28 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: WOSG

WOOHOO!! WAY TO GO HOUSE REPUBLICANS!!


40 posted on 01/28/2009 3:22:30 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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