Posted on 01/25/2009 3:26:05 AM PST by Sergeant Tim
This morning, the New York Daily News published my op-ed on President Barack Obama's decision to close Guantanamo and suspend the Military Commissions:
With his shameful order to close Guantanamo Bay, President Obama has perfectly filled the stereotype of the classic clueless ultra-Liberal -- the one who can generate great passion for the rights of the guilty defendant and none for the innocent victim.With a single stroke of the pen, Obama has delayed justice for the victims of 9/11, and in essence granted a reprieve for Al Qaeda mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the architect of 9/11.
America does not honor our "rule of law and the rights of man" as he put in his inauguration speech by such an action. Instead, this nation abdicated its duty to justice.
It seems the new President is too far removed from the victims of 9/11. Victims like 11-year-old Bernard Curtis Brown, a passenger on American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon. Everyone onboard was killed, as well as [125] people in the Pentagon. Curtis was on a trip with several of his classmates to California sponsored by National Geographic.
Obama and the Democrats have had a blind spot for 9/11 and have yet to show they have an ounce of understanding what happened that day.
Here is why we were attacked: Muslim extremists hate Americans and want us dead. Our policies in no way influenced the vitriol perpetuated on innocent Americans on September 11, 2001. ...
(Excerpt) Read more at 911familiesforamerica.org ...
So when are these anti Obama 9/11 families going to be put on the today show and given fawning coverage by the ?news” media? Oh, I guess that would be never. Unlike the widows who went on TV constantly to trash Bush and say he was responsible for the attack. They were operating like an arm of the Kerry campaign in ‘04 and were treated as long time terror and security experts by the media.
Image? Are you crazy or just suicidal? 9/11, Bali, Riyahd, Kobar, Beirut, Flight 103, and the thousands of other attacks by Islamic jidahists who imagine the day when all non-believers are either dead or underfoot. Victory or defeat will not be decided in a court of law; it will be decided on the world’s battlefields, Australia, America, the Middle East, and wherever our common enemy chooses to fight.
“...terrorists (if they are)...”
Get a life! These terrorists are war criminals! Leftist crap belongs on DU, not here!
Sympathy towards terrorists only bodes well with the extreme far left liberal whackos.
> i have to dissagre. it is a step in the right direction to close guantanamo.
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> americas image suffered world wide because of guantanamo.
Since when did that matter a Hoot in Hell? Crikey, mate: America is at war, and there needs to be a safe place to keep and interrogate these UNLAWFUL COMBATTANTS. They are not soldiers, they are not entitled to anything under the Geneva Convention except an appointment with the hangman.
> don´t get me wrong i´m not against putting terrorists (if they are) in maximum security prisons or something else.
Gitmo is a very well-appointed Maximum Security facility: much nicer than most State prisons, I believe. Much better than the dung-holes where these human turds deserve to live in.
> but it is a shame for a country which claims himself free to imprison people for years without a trial or prooven evidence.
Nope, not a shame, but a combat necessity. They were caught in a war zone waging war against American soldiers. They were not making carpets or feeding their cat or watering their garden. They would have been in hostile circumstances that left no doubt as to their hostile intentions.
Their lack of evidence is a crying shame: battlefields are no place to be looking for fingerprints and taking DNA samples. In this case, circumstantial evidence will have to do.
In happier days they would have been hanged as spies after a short field trial.
Anyrate, so says this Kiwi: I’m not a Yank but a foreigner, and I am in favor of putting killers and terrorists in Gitmo, where they can jolly well rot.
You take them, problem solved.
When it becomes advantageous for them to do so, I would imagine. The left leaning has a hard time admitting to 911 and giving these folks attention would be recognizing 911 - they are in a corner and don't know how to get out without losing face and credibility.
> Targeting civilians is a war criminal for example but killing forreign soldiers is called war.
It’s only called war if a number of very narrow circumstances have been met. And they are only permitted to participate in war under a similar very narrow set of defined circumstances.
The people at Guantanamo Bay are illegal combattants: IOW War Criminals. Every time they killed somebody, they committed pre-meditated First Degree murder. They are not excused by “being at war” as a soldier would be.
They are criminals of the worst sort, BY DEFINITION.
“...proove...”
The spell checker here works - the word is PROVE.
“PROOVE” sounds a bit like waterboarding-maybe we should try it, since your instincts are that it is Okay to PROOVE them...PROOVE them, GROOVE them - make ‘em talk!
Like it or not, we are all Americans and as such are members of the 9-11 family. We suffered as those who died or lost loved ones or friends suffered. We felt the horror just as each and every one in the midst of the attack did. We felt the sting of the attack just as if it was Dec 7 1941.
Anyone who thinks otherwise does not know or understand the significance of the act of war, nor the American people who witnessed the attack on their nation by those with at least two identifying characteristics. They were all foreigners who were illegally (not absolutely sure on this point) in the United States of America, and they were Muslim.
The ral mistake with Guantonomo was in not disposing of these people quickly.
Drain them of any information they might reveal and dispoe of them like the spies and fifth columnists they are.
These are not Prisoners of war they are war criminals.
Yep, maybe your right they should be put out of OUR misery and shoot while the doors are closing. Wake up these are the enemy and to handle them other than that is wrong in its self. But maybe you will be there next static when they find themselves back on the street again.
Sorry strong feelings and lib’s I know can understand feelings better than logic so you might be able to relate to that better.
I want YOU to open up YOUR home to hold these murders!
I was just watching Fox & Friends and they had a story about Murtha saying he wouldn’t mind putting them in his district. Murtha said “what’s the difference if they are in Gitmo or here? We’re still holding them”, Then F&F interviewed people in his district, most of whom said they didn’t want them but there were a few who said they wouldn’t care? Are they crazy? Don’t they know they’d be a target for a cell or a jail break or a mumbai hostage situation? These people are nuts.
By any definition you wish to use, they are war criminals - they have actively participated in attacking Americans on our soil and/killed our soldiers on the battle field....
I think nearly all here (see the ‘austrian’) understand your point. America was attacked on 9/11.
One of 9/11 family member Mike Burke’s points in his op-ed is the ultra-liberals have maliciously twisted the debate into: unlawful combatants were the victims of 9/11. Obama’s E.O. made no mention of the 2,975 they murdered.
They are nuts.
There is no problem in the Constitution. Thee problem is with the pandering morons who interpret (twist?) it to serve their naive agenda.
i have to dissagre. it is a step in the right direction to close guantanamo. americas image suffered world wide because of guantanamo. don´t get me wrong i´m not against putting terrorists (if they are) in maximum security prisons or something else. but it is a shame for a country which claims himself free to imprison people for years without a trial or prooven evidence.
Austrian, your spelling is atrocious, and you are probably a moonbat DUmmie as well as a would-be dhimmi.
Terrorists should be killed, with the rare exceptions that should be mined for information. There is no call to offer them sumptuous accommodations on the taxpayer dime, never mind our sumptuous civil rights. They do not believe in rights and were captured fighting for the end of your rights. They do not deserve liberty after fighting for an end to it. They fought to impose a system under which you would have no freedom; if you were a woman you'd have not even the right to leave the house; if you were Jewish you'd have no right to live; if you were accused you'd rot with NO trial, or hanged with no appeal, or mutilated with no mercy. That is what they were caught fighting for.
Our image? Our image suffers when we coddle such monsters. Proof? We did not find these wretches in a cabbage patch, we found them actively working toward our destruction.
The rule should be, keep them locked up until they no longer serve any purpose (such as intelligence); then take them out and hang them.
OK, - this rationalism is a sure sign of a liberal - I am done with you. Any Viking Kitties around?
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