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Limbaugh Responds to Obama
National Review ^ | 1/24/09 | Byron York

Posted on 01/24/2009 1:06:04 PM PST by JRochelle

According to an account in the New York Post, President Barack Obama yesterday told Republican leaders, "You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done." With George W. Bush now off the stage, it may be that Obama and some of his fellow Democrats view Limbaugh, and not John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, or any other elected official, as the true leader of the Republican opposition. This morning I asked Rush for his thoughts on all this, and here is his response:

There are two things going on here. One prong of the Great Unifier's plan is to isolate elected Republicans from their voters and supporters by making the argument about me and not about his plan. He is hoping that these Republicans will also publicly denounce me and thus marginalize me. And who knows? Are ideological and philosophical ties enough to keep the GOP loyal to their voters? Meanwhile, the effort to foist all blame for this mess on the private sector continues unabated when most of the blame for this current debacle can be laid at the feet of the Congress and a couple of former presidents. And there is a strategic reason for this.

Secondly, here is a combo quote from the meeting:

"If we don't get this done we (the Democrats) could lose seats and I could lose re-election. But we can't let people like Rush Limbaugh stall this. That's how things don't get done in this town."

To make the argument about me instead of his plan makes sense from his perspective. Obama's plan would buy votes for the Democrat Party, in the same way FDR's New Deal established majority power for 50 years of Democrat rule, and it would also simultaneously seriously damage any hope of future tax cuts. It would allow a majority of American voters to guarantee no taxes for themselves going forward. It would burden the private sector and put the public sector in permanent and firm control of the economy. Put simply, I believe his stimulus is aimed at re-establishing "eternal" power for the Democrat Party rather than stimulating the economy because anyone with a brain knows this is NOT how you stimulate the economy. If I can be made to serve as a distraction, then there is that much less time debating the merits of this TRILLION dollar debacle.

Obama was angry that Merrill Lynch used $1.2 million of TARP money to remodel an executive suite. Excuse me, but didn't Merrill have to hire a decorator and contractor? Didn't they have to buy the new furnishings? What's the difference in that and Merrill loaning that money to a decorator, contractor and goods supplier to remodel Warren Buffet's office? Either way, stimulus in the private sector occurs. Are we really at the point where the bad PR of Merrill getting a redecorated office in the process is reason to smear them? How much money will the Obamas spend redecorating the White House residence? Whose money will be spent? I have no problem with the Obamas redoing the place. It is tradition. 600 private jets flown by rich Democrats flew into the Inauguration. That's fine but the auto execs using theirs is a crime? In both instances, the people on those jets arrived in Washington wanting something from Washington, not just good will.

If I can be made to serve as a distraction, then there is that much less time debating the merits of the trillion dollar debacle.

One more thing, Byron. Your publication and website have documented Obama's ties to the teachings of Saul Alinksy while he was community organizing in Chicago. Here is Rule 13 of Alinksy's Rules for Radicals:

"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0bama; bho2009; communityorganizing; democratparty; democrats; limbaugh; obama; rulesforradicals; rush; saulalinsky; talkradio; theone
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To: indubitably

Those are probably on Rhambo’s desk already. Look, this is a criminal enterprise at work. They are waging war to retain the ultimate power on this planet ... in their estimation. NOTHING is too sleazy or too deadly in thier lust for control. They have proven this witht heir empowering themselves via the abortion holocaust! And this Marxist squirrel went even further, to protect infanticide in Illinois. Godless doesn’t even begin to color this mob, this gaggle of ghouls.


141 posted on 01/24/2009 3:28:54 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: indubitably

Wouldn’t be the first time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ryan_(politician)


142 posted on 01/24/2009 3:29:18 PM PST by benjibrowder (Looking forward to kicking Obama out of office in 2012.)
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To: NurseZac
"There is probably action already afoot;"

You're right about that, it goes on all the time, has yearly since the beginning of this nation... but the 'action' is nothing like people here think. Joining political clubs helps, but the 'club' that has to be 'joined' isn't a club - it is the elective office at the bottom of the political ladder. In some states it is called the 'central committee' - other states distict politcal parties sparated into what are refered to as 'wards' (mostly in the eastern states.) But, these district level elected vote at the county level, and often go to state party functions and conventions, and vote there, often in exactly the wrong ways (from a conservative standpoint.)

You are most right about. '... we need to each start in our own towns and get started now on grass roots levels to elect conservative[s]'

But you'll have little effect in electing 'Congress critters/senators and get[ting] the RINOs out' - what you CAN effect is who becomes part of the elected GOP party members at the local district level - and by extension, at the state level. If you and other conservatives in your town pay attention to who gains these offices (most all are unpaid, by law) then you will do what needs done the most - and that is, keeping RINO's and inept people away from the ability to vote on state and local issues in your state - and rising within the party to the point that they have clout at the national party level.

Remember this - people think that because they are a 'registered Republican,' they are a member of the GOP. They are not. They are voters affiliated with the party, but they can NOT vote on party policy, they cannot attend state and national conventions, and vote there. They can not even vote at the county, or at district level...

Most of all, rememer this. Votes take place every month, at local, county and state levels. If the people (DUES paying, elected, or appointed members of the party) casting these votes are not conservatives, and a majority are liberals, then you do not have conservative principaled leadership in where you can most effect the course of your party - that is, in your own 'back yard.'

I'd highly advise that you call a Republican Party office in your state, find out from them the phone number of any local office in your town that might exist, or the nearest office to you. Call them, get their address and drive there - find out who the elected state party people are in your district, get their phone numbers, go see them. Find out where they meet, and go to their meetings - they will be very happy (usually) to have you. They may even 'appoint' or 'elect' you to join them (you'll have to pay state dues, usually 20-30 per year.) Now you can VOTE! Not only at the local meeting, but at the county level... you can also become a 'delegate' to state conventions, where much voting goes on. You'll soon see how conservative (or not) these people are - you'll learn who the good guys are, and who the bad ones are... and learn how to appose the bad ones.

It's a long, thankless - and somewhat expensive - but highly productive endeavor. I could go on for hours, and many pages. BUT... 'activists' who are not engaged here, are NOT doing much good otherwise. Small clubs can prepare you for this - if they're worth anything at all. Other clubs are about stoking the ego of the club leadership - and do little to nothing other than that.

Last point - you can effect the direction of the party yourself, when you do this - through your votes. All else is smoke an mirrors. Get yourself into the position of being able to vote on a monthly basis - on party direction. If you aren't doing that, you're not where you need to be.

Drop me freepmail if you have more questions. 8^)

143 posted on 01/24/2009 3:36:39 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: MHGinTN
Marvin, is that you?

Forgive me, but I'm having trouble understanding your post.

Unless Rush gets a handle on his own egomania, Obama will play him like a fiddle keeping the nation divided with half blind to the Marxist agenda as Marxist.

Is Obama's marxist agenda tied to what you called Rush's egomania? Let's assume for the sake of argument that Rush has a big ego (not as big as Obama's ego, mind you).  How does Rush's ego keep the nation divided?

The majority of people who voteed for the affirmative action poseur were not voting based upon known characteristics of Obama. The media made sure of that. The media isn't goign to educate the maalleable masses at this stage when their media goal of socialist paradise is in sight!

Exactly! And Rush is educating people, along with other radio hosts and conservative media personalities.  They are the ones exposing Obama's agenda, and Obama needs to silence dissent and his critics. Let's make one thing clear:  Rush doesn't speak for the GOP, Rush speaks for conservatism and conservative ideals.

Obama will steer the public deabte int he direction of complicated explanations knowing Rush loves the complicated scene but has little experience in actually awakening in the dumbed down a sense of right and wrong ... the dumbed down masses just take or leave a guy like Rush based on how they feel and react to his seemingly over the top ego.

Don't fall for Obama's tactics. This isn't about one man. Obama's agenda isn't complicated. Anyone who knows about socialism and communism can see what he's doing.  It was Rush who exposed Obama for the socialist that he is. It is Rush who can point out the difference between right and wrong quite easily when it comes to Obama and the rest of the Democrats' tactics, and his ego has nothing to do with it.

Note also that Obama is making the same mistake that Clinton made when he feuded with Rush in the early-mid 1990s.  He is the leader of the free world and he is feuding with a radio host.  That in itself elevates Rush and diminishes Obama.  It's very foolish on his part.  He evidently didn't learn from Clinton's experience.

That's how Obama will exploit Rush as a gag man to divert fromt he reality of our Republic's demise.

He will try for sure, but like I said, this isn't about Rush per se, this is about destroying the first amendment.  This is about silencing critics and political opponents. This is about incrementalism. You start with one person, demonize him/her, and then destroy them using any legal means at your disposal --an old Stalinist tactic.

Obama is starting with Rush because he is the biggest voice in conservatism. He will try to destroy him first, but his purpose is to destroy all those who oppose him and that includes the rest of conservative talk radio, as well as  newsmen and the blogosphere. This includes Free Republic and any other conservative websites out there. This is the beginning of the end of freedom of expression.

There is a way to fight it, though. We unite and grow bigger by intelligent dissents and constructive criticism. We don't allow fear to silence us. We keep on going. We resist!

144 posted on 01/24/2009 3:36:56 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: JRochelle

I hope Rush is watching his six.


145 posted on 01/24/2009 3:37:01 PM PST by jesseam (Been there and done that!)
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To: Texas Eagle

The Great Unifier’s base overwhelmingly opposes a good portion of his agenda. They proved this in California by voting against gay marriage. What conservatives need to do is to run in Democrat primaries as conservative democrats. Forget Republican and Democrat labels and run in whichever party on the True Ideals of the US Declaration of Independence and US Constitution.


146 posted on 01/24/2009 3:39:16 PM PST by petitfour
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To: EDINVA
So our latest POTUS with the highest IQ ever takes on Rush Limbaugh and the Catholic Church within 4 days of his swearing-in?

Don't forget his cabinet/closest ally negative reference to the exclusion of "highly skilled white construction workers." At the rate things are going, the inauguration crowd will be replaced by an ever-increasing number of unemployed American citizens. If he grants amnesty to millions of illegals, the economy and feelings toward him will get real interesting real fast, especially by those who voted for him and put him on a pedastal.

Most assuredly conservative talk show hosts (all of them) will have increased listener and viewer numbers, given the dictates already outlined. Mandated fairness doctrine cannot be far away. The complaints people had about Bush are going to appear irrelevant in comparison to both liberals and conservatives (its already begun).

147 posted on 01/24/2009 3:45:17 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: Southack
"The GOP has to present a *popular* alternative"

Bah! When freedom isn't popular it's the population that needs adjusting.


148 posted on 01/24/2009 3:46:57 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Southack
"The GOP has to present a *popular* alternative."

It isn't going to work, so the republicans can safely go on record opposing it, fiercely so. Even if they came up with what would be a popular alternative, the media wouldn't report on it, and few people would know of it anyway.

The fact is that spending money we don't have isn't going to help our economy. Especially with what they are looking to spend on. If spending money helped the economy, the economy would be booming as we speak...

149 posted on 01/24/2009 3:50:40 PM PST by KoRn
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To: MHGinTN

No, I don’t remember that Rush was abandoned during that period of time. I remember that Rush was overwhelmed by the support he received from listeners, to the point that he genuinely realized for the first time exactly what he means to the vast majority of conservatives, and how important we believe he is to conservatism. He was humbled by the fact that so few did “abandon him” despite the tremendous efforts by some to use his fault against him. Not only was Rush overwhelmed with messages of support, his sponsors were deluged with messages of support as well.

That said, I know there were some who “abandoned” Rush and considered him too flawed to represent their idea of what conservatism should mean. The same thing happened to other effective conservatives by their political colleagues, et al, which has drastically limited our overall effectiveness.

We are well past the stage where we can afford to allow something said or done, by shameless leftists, about any conservative to shame them into abandoning the fight, or us into abandoning them. I worry less about that type of vulnerability than a number of others that are much more serious.


150 posted on 01/24/2009 3:54:17 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: Ron C.
Excellent post. I'll probably be a state delagate once again at the next state convention - which elects party leadership. I've been a delegate to every state convention that I wished to be a part of, and I'm not a big name in Republican politics.

The other thing I would add is that those who want to be active should run for a delegate position at the local level. Here, it's an elected office on the primary election ballot. I've run several times for that position myself, and won every time due to no opposition. Usually I'm the only person on the ballot and multiple positions are open.

Clubs ARE good and many of them double as PACS which are even more effective, but the major able way to make a difference is through the local political parties.

151 posted on 01/24/2009 3:55:19 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Obama = Jimmy Carter II)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Making your policies “victims” of Rush doesn’t make them effective or workable.

Bambam’s trying to make himself the victim, to persuade the public to hand over their loot.

Media’s drumbeat: “Aw look at ‘im, in’t he cute? Stop pickin’ on ‘im.” Etc.

I want to throw up.

At the grocery store this afternoon, BO’s picture plastered with approvingly captions on every mag at the check out. I felt like I was in line at NK state store.

What happened to press scrutiny? Chronically voting “present”? Lack of experience, esp. military? Wright & Ayers? Rezko? Tossing campaign spending limits? ‘Spreading wealth’? Violating J Plumber’s privacy while whining about excessive FISA actions? Etc.??


152 posted on 01/24/2009 3:57:01 PM PST by 4Liberty (Discount window +fractional reserve banking = moral hazard + bank corporate welfare + Inflation tax)
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To: JRochelle

This is the Unity Paradox they’ve successfully created.

1.) Obama won around 1/3 of the eligible voters, let’s call them ‘the Unitards’.

2.) Poling shows roughly 75% want Obama to succeed. (Who wants outright failure given the stakes -very few.)

Note that item 1 is part of item 2, but item 1 did not beget item 2, although this is the operative media template.

Now the Unitards might well follow Obama into the abyss without question, but that does not speak for the 2 of 3 people.

The 2 of 3 don’t have any representation to speak of. They are getting the truth from the palm-palm media. This all works well to allow the looting to continue.


153 posted on 01/24/2009 3:59:06 PM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: LucyJo
"there were some who “abandoned” Rush and considered him too flawed"

Those who have never experienced what we in the fraternity refer to as "suicide pain" should shut their scummy sanctimonious mouths.

Maybe experience will educated them someday. I certainly hope so.


154 posted on 01/24/2009 4:01:10 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: tomnbeverly

I heard parts of an account of a dinner interview between Obama and some female press person. She was groveling and licking his toes, but he was complaining that cartoonists were portraying him with big ears and this made him feel dissed and insecure...he thought it was unfair and they shouldn’t do this.

He’ll crash and burn unless the folks on the hard left (Ayers, Axelrod and Rahm) are strong enough to hold him up.


155 posted on 01/24/2009 4:01:45 PM PST by livius
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To: c21sac

“Obama should choose his fights with someone who doesn’t have 15 hours per week to pick him apart.”

Remember how BO had his own tv channel playing his ‘message’ over & over? He has a lot of gall to pick on the same free system of communications of which he took full advantage.

Plus, we ALL can have “15 hours,” every week, if we want. Each & every one of us. It’s call podcasting.

Anyone who tries to censor Limbaugh simply for being successful in this crazy competitive environment is an IDIOT


156 posted on 01/24/2009 4:04:13 PM PST by 4Liberty (Discount window +fractional reserve banking = moral hazard + bank corporate welfare + Inflation tax)
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To: JRochelle
SAUL ALINSKY:

"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

Exactly!!! We might add "and DESTROY it" since that it a big part of the M.O. in concert with the Mediascum.

This is what the Demagogues do and get away with constantly. How have they succeeded in trashing every significant R. leader for so many decades? They do the "smear and fear" to everyone and then have the nerve to accuse others of doing it to them!!

157 posted on 01/24/2009 4:07:02 PM PST by Enchante (What the Demagogues Call "bi-partisanship" is RINO Grovelling)
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158 posted on 01/24/2009 4:13:23 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: huldah1776

Educate and enthusiastically encourage the young people you know to become interested in our government. Talk to them about patriots - past and present, etc.. Loan books to them and talk with them about what they read. Tell them about sites like http://www.heritage.org/. Turn them on to Rush, Sean, Mark, Michelle, Laura, et al.

Encourage those who are already interested to become active and join, or start, a group of Young Republicans , http://www.youngrepublicans.com/, or Young Conservatives, http://www.yaf.org/ , etc.

One of my nieces is having the time of her life as a Young Republican.


159 posted on 01/24/2009 4:16:24 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: kalee
"a friend who voted for Obama"

Do you self assess?


160 posted on 01/24/2009 4:16:47 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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