[OldGuard1]

Sometimes it's all too easy to find liberals embarrassing themselves, but this time it's particularly amusing. If you know anything about science, check out the thread for a good laugh at their expense.

[Doogle]

ah s**t, now Algore has another crusade

[jmcenanly]

These guys must have slept through their high school chemistry classes.It probably costs more in energy to make the aluminum than the hydrogen would provide.

[BipolarBob]

didn’t go to the thread but if scientists can efficiently break the covalent bond of hydrogen to oxygen in water, then good on them. This will speed the hydrogen fuel process.

[djf]

I can do better than that!

Take some water. Mix in about a teaspoon of sodium hydroxide.

Chuck in the aluminum foil, it will bubble like crazy, and give off hydrogen.

Until the aluminum is consumed and you’re left with this toxic sludge type stuff that I would recommend you bury deep, deep in the ground.

As a matter of fact, I was doing better than that when I was in eighth grade or so...

[Vinnie]

Let’s not forget the energy required to extract the aluminum from the ore.
It’s electric and considerable.

[WildcatClan]

Paging the Not This *#@! Again, guy. You are needed.

[IndispensableDestiny]

I can make hydrogen from water by dropping a stick of metallic sodium or potassium into it. The potassium is especially exciting when wet.

[valkyry1]

Now thats quite a Catalyst if it works

[ThomasThomas]

I am working on a car that run on Alka-Seltzer and water. I thought I had something with pop rocks but there were unforeseen issues.

[MrEdd]

[Greysard]

Here is a simple method of sanity checking this proposal. When you burn hydrogen in oxygen you get plenty of heat (really a lot, that's why Shuttle uses this combination.)

To reverse this process and free hydrogen (and oxygen to that matter) you need to spend a comparable amount of energy. This hydrogen from water will cost you.

[NewRomeTacitus]

Matter begets energy begets matter, etc. as far as we can perceive.

Without perfection there’s always bleed-off during each transition of energy or matter. That’s the atomic level we’re able to know.

Subatomics is where positive and negative mass particles collide, merge and bounce in odd configurations. Hawking postulated that singularities (black holes) are conduits where the negative mass particles are converged and projected to creation of new matter/existence. We need to explore these ideas and we have the means to create tools for that. Our United States took a lead in the 1980s with the Super Collider project, carving out a nine mile trench in Texas where miracles were possible.

Unfortunately political squabbling over kickback revenues killed it, leaving humanity dependent on the third-size Fermi laboratory in Europe - where the US is not on the hot list when profound discoveries are made.

If Islamic millionaires beloved of Jihadists can access this information (we’re talking basic forces of nature) and we can not, why does that trench in Texas remain empty?

Doesn’t that beat the trillions of dollars propping up bad management with no value in sight?