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Europe Lauds Obama Shutdown of Secret CIA Prisons
Associated Press ^ | January 22, 2009

Posted on 01/22/2009 7:48:06 PM PST by Steelfish

Europe lauds Obama shutdown of secret CIA prisons

By SHAWN POGATCHNIK and FRANK JORDANS, Associated Press Writers – DUBLIN, Ireland –

U.S. President Barack Obama's decision Thursday to shut secret CIA-run prisons abroad brought renewed calls for their locations to be disclosed as well a fresh denial from Poland, one of two eastern European countries most closely linked to the practice.

Across Europe, governments uneasy that CIA flights had been carrying terrorism suspects through their airports and air space for years said they were relieved to be heading into a new rendition-free era.

Dick Marty, the Swiss lawmaker who spearheaded the Council of Europe investigations that sought to expose the existence of clandestine interrogation centers in Eastern Europe and Africa, said he expected the truth would come trickling out once the centers were closed. "For some countries, things are going to become very embarrassing.

I think European countries would do well now to tell the truth," Marty said in an interview with The Associated Press. Marty said he "would be very surprised" if any CIA-run facilities were still operating in Europe, but added "in East Africa, or Morocco, I might assume there is something."

He said Obama's order granting Red Cross officials access to all secret facilities might prove critical in revealing their locations, both past and present.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhocia; bhogwot; bleedingheartattack; cia; dickmarty; dickmartymarty; gitmo; interrogation; nationalsecurity; obamaregime; pogatchnik; prisons; secretprisons; shawnpogatchnik; switzerland; terrsymps; thaci
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Did we elect a President of the USA or the EU? Anyone who puts American security at risk to be admired by European elites must be impeached.
1 posted on 01/22/2009 7:48:06 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Doncha know-—he’s president of the world!!!


2 posted on 01/22/2009 7:50:56 PM PST by Vozda ("For equanimity in the face of blind hatred, I recommend Christianity." ~Ann Coulter)
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To: Steelfish
The day will soon be over. The digging will be done.

3 posted on 01/22/2009 7:51:08 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Steelfish

Heard Brownback on the local radio today. Evidently one of the reasons he argues that Fort Leavenworth won’t work is because they are training the muslem officers of the future up there and they say that they would leave if the gitmo people showed up. Scary.


4 posted on 01/22/2009 7:52:34 PM PST by Mercat (God doesn't call me to be successful. God calls me to be faithful. Mother Teresa)
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To: Steelfish
UH, Europe....got those train stations guarded well? Airports? You think they just attack us here in the US????? (Idiots)
5 posted on 01/22/2009 7:53:10 PM PST by goodnesswins (Tell the truth - GOEBBELIZATION (propaganda) is what many voters suffer from.....)
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To: Steelfish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYKIcnj1MJY&feature=related


6 posted on 01/22/2009 7:53:20 PM PST by CommieCutter (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/programs/ht/qt/3013_08.html)
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To: Steelfish

It sounds as though the Eurotrash are looking forward to us releasing these murders so they can go blow up more Europeeing cities.


7 posted on 01/22/2009 7:53:47 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (CIA Director!....So easy, a caveman can do it!)
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To: Steelfish

Will they take these terrorists?


8 posted on 01/22/2009 7:55:41 PM PST by Red6
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To: Steelfish

It truly amazes me how many people are so worried about frigging terrorists and their “rights”.


9 posted on 01/22/2009 7:56:58 PM PST by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: Steelfish

The executive order relates to all “permanent” facilities. It doesn’t say anything about temporary ones. Until I see different, I say this is window dressing that allows O to play both sides and look good to his leftist pals.


10 posted on 01/22/2009 7:57:04 PM PST by squidly
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To: Steelfish

Obama is like a small child suddenly given supreme power. He will pass decrees, edicts and executive orders without thinking about the consequences. Only problem, we will be the ones to pay.


11 posted on 01/22/2009 7:57:56 PM PST by doc1019 (The inmates are now running the asylum.)
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To: Steelfish

Good, let’s put them on a plane to Paris.


12 posted on 01/22/2009 7:59:03 PM PST by hiho hiho
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Dick Marty, the Swiss lawmaker who spearheaded the Council of Europe investigations

What kind of a Swiss name is "Dick Marty?"

I'm guessing he's been getting funny money from the Lugano cell's Ahmed Huber.

13 posted on 01/22/2009 8:04:44 PM PST by piasa
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To: Steelfish

Well, goodie! When we are attacked again I hope the EU is pleased — oh, wait! They WILL be pleased since they are mostly Muslim anyway.


14 posted on 01/22/2009 8:08:37 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Steelfish

They should release the Gitmo guys IN the EU.


15 posted on 01/22/2009 8:12:07 PM PST by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: Steelfish
I'm not big into torture and abusing prisoners, but some of those accounts I don't believe and some may have been worse. War is war.

I don't see it mentioned yet, but I thought part of the reason for GITMO and the secret prisons was typical terrorist tactics. When they know who is imprisoned and where, it makes our soldiers and the prisons more of a target.

It happens in Israel all the time. Israel takes a prisoner, so the other side kidnaps an Israeli or two - or worse. Then they use them as hostages and bargaining chip, age-old tactic.

So with GITMO, it was more secure that way; of course it isn't going to completely stop retaliation, but I don't see what the big deal is. I've read verying accounts that some aren't really terrorists, just turned in for bounty and are innocent whereas others were caught on the battlefield. Some that have been released were supposedly caught on the battlefield.

Criminy, if this is the way we are going to fight wars from now on, forget it. We can't possibly win by playing nice. Europe when they were into wars and not such pansies (English excepted), they played dirtier than all get out, so they're a bunch of hypocrites. With the exception of Spain and England and possibly a few threats, Europe didn't get attacked. We did.

I agree the prisoners are a problem for a war that is prolonged indefinitely, but there must be more to it than that or there would have been more released.

If we had come to a conclusion of this WOT, closing the prisons would be another matter. Nobody seems to want them here or anywhere near them. Some suggested Texas. Yeah, right. NIMBY's and hypocrites.

16 posted on 01/22/2009 8:24:51 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Steelfish

Next time Europe gets in trouble, it’s on its own.


17 posted on 01/22/2009 8:33:01 PM PST by popdonnelly (Don't lose sight of your conservative principles.)
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To: Steelfish

Who gives a damn what the Europeans think? They are finished, done, kaput, emasculated, castrated, and hogtied by the Moslems. Looks like Hitler’s buddies won the war, aided by the Communists and marxists.

Hey Eurotrash:

This time “The Yankees Aren’t Coming”.

Enjoy your death. We won’t mourn. Lost too much blood that last time. Never again.


18 posted on 01/22/2009 8:51:55 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Steelfish

The most eloquent thinf I can say is “Holy Crap!!!”

I just read this story and came to see if it posted over here yet. I had hoped the Hussein would somehow be brought to some sort of central point by the centrist Democrats, but he is absolutely hell bent on single-handedly dismantling the country in his first 100 days.

You can kiss you national security buns goodbye and say hello to terrorism on our shores if this keeps up. First Gitmo, now this.

I’m shaking my head, you just can’t see it...


19 posted on 01/22/2009 9:06:54 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Me... I'm ignorant but I do know this; God is our only hope!)
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I had hoped the Hussein would somehow be brought to some sort of central point by the centrist Democrats...

With everything we know about him? Bulk up on your cynicism a little bit.

20 posted on 01/22/2009 9:14:41 PM PST by Stentor (Tax cheater Tim Geithner is scum.)
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